The new regime is in place. What do you do with $50 million in cap space?

hard to say, but I guess a Cro comeback makes too much sense not to happen.

perrish cox is an unheralded potential pickup. he Kareem jackson and Maxwell would be great if we want second tier cost alternatives to Dexter and Dee Dee.

williams and Cromartie would be my ideal though. I think they'd bring so much to the team in terms of veteran leadership and bang for our buck.

 

If Revis weren't injured we would have received more value IMO. Even so, you are playing a dangerous hindsight game thinking whatever we trade away we will get equal or better value. I would rather have Mo (All-Pro) then anyone at the 19th spot. Wilkerson and Richardson we can resign them and they play extremely well together. I'm not breaking up that chemistry.

 

I think the 6th pick must be reserved for an IMPACT player - on either side of the ball. That means either an elite WR, pass rusher, or QB in my opinion. Take the BPA.

I like the idea of moderated priced veteran CBs to compliment Dee and Dex.

I also would love to get a top G in FA (Mike Iupati?) and we def need some LBs that can cover.

 

Wow I agree completely with everything you just said. Hopefully the 6th pick 'Impact' player is on the offensive side of the ball. On defense we have Wilkerson and Richardson whom can be classified as impact players and we have none on the offensive side of the ball. A perfect world for me has Amari Cooper sitting at #6 ready for the takings. I hope and really see us going after a stud WR like Thomas or Dez (whom the Cowboys are 100% resigning) in Free Agency, but if our worse case scenario group of starting WRs are Decker, Cooper, and Kerley I'm not mad at that at all when you couple them with Jace Amaro who'll be in his second year and a pass catching RB who'll be back there. I think that's a pretty potent offense regardless of who's throwing the ball in Chan Gailey's system.

I think they'll bring Cro back which would be amazing if Milliner actually played like the 9th pick in the draft and McDougle turns out to be a little something then I think the CB unit is okay.

I also see us going hard after Iupati who is also my first choice at guard. They have to get a stud in there with D'Brick taking a step back and Mangold getting long in the tooth. A solid guard makes that line a lot better because he will be picking up where D'Brick and Mangold are leaving off. If Breno is still there at RT it's honestly neither here nor there for me.

Oh and I'm calling Geno having a breakout year under Gailey. I think next season the offense finally starts to bloom. Big year coming up fellas. Sorry for the rant.

 

I love Cooper, but I also think Parker, Kevin White, and Jaelen Strong are not far off, impact wise.

 

GM Mike Maccagnan (via Jets): "Building through the draft is ideally what I'd like to do, but we'll be very active in free agency." #nyj

 

You are inferring the bold. The trade is for a pick; there is absolutely no way of knowing who you draft with said pick will be the same, better or worse caliber player. The unknown element with trading for picks should be already factored in the compensation the party with the known commodity (i.e., Mo) is requesting to get back.

Though I understand the point you are making, I don't it's pertinent to the debate I thought you and I were having. I thought we were debating the appropriate compensation for a Wilkerson trade, as in whether or not he is worth the 19th pick overall, more or less. Based on recent history, I feel the 19th pick with maybe a day 3 pick is fair compensation. You proclaimed it's not and that 2 first round picks would be appropriate; I respectfully disagree.

Whether or not to trade Mo is a separate argument and discussion, which I have no problem having with you and whoever. It sounds as though you are willing to pay Mo 12+ million dollars a year to keep him in a Jets jersey knowing you'll likely have to shell out even more in a few short years for Sheldon. I don't think that's good cap management to be paying 2 interior defensive lineman that kind of money. I rather use that money else where like on an accomplished speed rusher on the edge or lockdown CB while getting an extra 1st round pick to boot. I personally did not agree with the Abe nor Revis trades but I am smart enough to understand why they were done. Mo is an even more obvious trade candidate because of the depth we have at the position. When we traded Abe and Revis, we did not have another pass rusher or shut down CB respectively.

Being somewhat of a pseudo-draftnik, I don't like to attribute "luck" as the reason why we hit on Mangold and Richardson. I feel that takes credit away from good scouting. If it's all luck, then Idzik should still have his job.

 

If Wilkerson is not signed to an extension before the draft (or even before free agency starts) then there is clearly a problem that most likely involves him wanting more money than we can afford to pay him.

I know they just got here but I do not see how signing Wilkerson and getting him locked up to a reasonable contract is not their top priority when it comes to personnel.

If he is not willing to sign for less than $12 mil per year, replacing him with a free agent or draft pick AND getting another draft pick for him is the way to go.

Coples, Ellis, and Douzable across from Sheldon Richardson is a hell of a lot more talent than most teams have at DE as it is.

 

Come on, you know they are locking him up. Bowles is from Temple!

 

First, it's fine that we disagree. I wasn't saying that we shouldn't address the CB position in FA. I was just saying that I didn't see it as the #1 priority. For me, until a team has a franchise QB in place, that should be their #1 priority.

I also don't think CB is the priority that others do. It was with Rex, but don't think it is as important with other HCs and DCs. IMO a strong pass rush is more important. That said, I'm still in favor of signing at least one, if not two, FA CBs. It just depends on how much they want to spend of the cap on the position. If they can sign two FA CBs for a total of $5 million or so, fine, but I'm against spending $10 million or more on the position. We've already been in the position of having too much of the cap tied up in the CB position and didn't win squat. I'm not interested in repeating history.

 

Yep. On this we're in total agreement.

 

I don't think it will cost Wilk 12M / season to keep him here. I think he's going to get an average of 10M that's my opinion and he's absolutely worth every penny. A nice 5 yr extension, it won't have to cost him that much money. Now if he had a monster year this year - I'm talking like 15+ sacks then maybe you make the argument that he's worth 12M+

With the cap increasing year by year, I don't see a reason why you don't keep Mo here. You maintain your elite home-grown talent. As for Richardson, he may command more - but we will see. Even so you keep him too because those are 2 guys that can get to the QB and shut-down the run game. I hope the Jets find a stud 3 down linebacker and safety for the defense (Hopefully Pryor pans out). I don't think the Jets need an elite player at the CB position - however we do need stability at that position.

I was perfectly fine with the Revis trade, the Abe one hurt me a little bit but his play was souring on me anyway. I didn't think it would take as long as it has to find another premium edge-rusher.

One thing is for sure, I hope the Browns take Snacks off our hands for 1 of those first rounders. To me, he's expendable - you got Douzable and Ellis as well.

 

The key to success here is not to jump at the big name guys who are the sexy sign for our team . What our new regime needs to do is bring in some talented role players who fill areas of need and hopefully Bowels & Gailey can get them to overachieve.
Everyone wants to make the big splash but signing mid tier players and drafting well will allow the team to improve over the long haul as opposed to signing big $ long term contracts that could wind up setting us back in the long run.

 

Unlike a lot of posters, I am not opposed to trading Mo Wilk. I'm not saying I'm in favor of the trade, but you make valid points for doing so. Having $25 million of the cap tied up in two players on any unit is hard to justify. Having to do so would have us right back in the situation we were in a few years ago at CB with Revis. I was fully in favor of trading Revis, not only because of the cap issue, but because I despised Revis. I was also in favor of trading Abe. He dogged it and played only when he felt like it. I was also in favof of trading Keyshawn. I never liked him and his big mouth. Every one of those trades benefitted the team, and I think trading Mo would do the same.

The downside is the loyalty issue. This isn't like Pittsburgh letting older players leave or trading players on the downside of their careers. Big Mac should tread carefully. There's a lot to be considered.

 

Ask yourself this: on both sides of the ball why were we a 4-12 team?

On D our corners were an absolute disaster! Dee and Mcdo have potential but are injury riddled players.. They can't be relied upon! We need corners that can play press man with the way Bowles likes to blitz.

On O Geno couldn't read a defender if his life depended it this season... In order for us to have any success our QB position needs to be addressed.

 

LOL!! You're obviously still smoking the Rex crack. The CBs were not the reason we were a 4-12 team.

I'm the one that said the QB should be the #1 priority, not CB. Read much?

 

IDK what a scenario would be...I'd take a 1st and 3rd for him for sure if it was a team picking in the top 10. Including players is way too hard to predict but if you're giving me a top half of the league FS or CB I'm listening to that too (with some draft compensation as well of at least a 2nd rounder)

 

If Mo is willing to take $5 mil per year we should lock him up for the next six years before free agency starts.

Then we can look into locking up Demario Davis and Snacks next.