All Eyes on Woody now...

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  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Good post C-Man!
     
  2. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Some funny shit right there... :)
     
  3. No Fly Zone

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    If you're Woody and you've seen how 19 draft picks have fared (very poorly), how other teams that took players we all know are better than those idiot picked that are contributing to their teams, how idiot screwed up the deepest WR draft in recent memory with nothing to show for it, how little idiot did in FA signings (Dimitri Patterson over other DB's that were available? really?) how in the world do you trust him to spend the Jets $$ wisely? If he doesn't its not just the 2015 draft that gets screwed up its all the $$ on FA signings for pieces that don't fit that will eat up their cap space for the next 4-5 years and set the franchise back for even longer than that! I fire Idzik immediately if I'm him, I wouldn't even trust him to order a ham and cheese sandwich.
     
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  4. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    If Woody really wants to show us he cares, he would clean house. Pursue Harbaugh vigorously, then as someone mentioned in this post call up Bill Polian to give us his thoughts on GM candidates, he is a very respected and knowledgeable guy.

    Rex is gone. Idzik has to go too. Anyone who basically sabotages his coach to fail can't stay on board. All the backlash that Idzik has received is deserved and Woody has to let him go. Idzik was thrown into deep waters and he sank to the bottom. Blow it up.
     
  5. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Free Agency is not difficult. Hitting a good rookie is. Richardson is a stud. Milliner has one more season to prove something. Amaro looks quality. Saunders was a bad pick, verdict is out on some of the others. Draft is the draft, you hit some you miss some.

    We got Decker, Harvin, Kerley. Still looking for the big north south threat. Johnson is old, but he can still carry the football. Ivory and Powell are serviceable.

    I'm not sold on Idzik being fired yet. I need one more bad season before I call for his head. He needs to address the offense in a BIG way. We need some help in the secondary and linebacker. 70% of the off season should be committed to the offense.

    First step, Fire Rex and Marty. Bring in some real football coaches. Bring back "Captains". Bring back some discipline and accountability.

    Rex fun house, Marty madhouse and moral victories to the toilet. Somewhere Rex lost that commitment to winning that he said he would honor. There were winnable games on the schedule this season that he let slip away. Rex, really failed hard a managing the entire team and critical game time situations.

    I am far more pessimistic of this years coaching staff than this years talent pool. Pour job of preparing the team for games (San Diego, Buffalo snowed in, Green Bay with huge lead, having Geno throw 30 times again in that "pocket", no HB Screens, no commitment to the run what so ever). Terrible preparation, terrible game time management, awful lack of adjustments, zero pulse of talent (powell), acceptance of losing as norm, no focus on protecting the football, awful secondary play muffed punts

    Ryan & Marty- see ya!
     
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  6. Big Blocker

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    I also am not the first to mention that retaining Idzik will make it harder to get a new HC in there. Any and all candidates will know Idzik is on a short leash. So if a new HC takes over, does he risk going out perhaps as early as next year with Idzik? Or if Idzik is fired but the new HC retained, isn't that a second go around of what happened when Ryan was retained when Idzik was hired? Of course it would be. Johnson could, in fact would probably have to, guarantee money at least into year two to get anyone, and that's not very much.

    Get the new HC on the same time line as the GM.
     
  7. Cman69

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    That's the only way a revamping of the FO/CS can work.
     
  8. Pocket Jet

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    Great posts and thread C Man !
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Thanks! Every now and then I have my blind squirrel moment... :)

    Oh yeah, one more little thing that kinda complicates a new HC hire. If a candidate is married with a family, how do you talk him into taking a position that may last only one season? He'd most likely would have to move his family here, settle in and hope that at the end of the year, his boss (Idzik) won't get fired. No married guy takes that gamble so the reality is, for Idzik to stay, Woody will have to guarantee him several years at least to make any HC job offer viable.

    OMG!!!
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    Yes, that's another consideration. there's too many complications to firing Ryan and leaving Idzik in place. I know all the counter arguments, and Woody will do what he does. But I don't see going forward how retaining Idzik would work out.
     
  11. NCJetsfan

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    Unfortunately, I think you're probably right, but pray we're both wrong in a big way!!!!
     
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    Hopefully, the new GM will have been looking at the scouting reports from his current team, and will have been doing some scouting himself. If so, then he can ignore what the blind idiots in the Jets' Scouting Dept. recommend, ignore the new HC, and make his own decisions.
     
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    Anyone who could sign up for bringing Rex back under ANY circumstances should be permanently banned from following the Jets and posting on a Jets board. You're a LOT smarter than this!!!
     
  14. NCJetsfan

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    This year is my 50th year of rooting for this God-forsaken excuse for a franchise. If Woody doesn't make the right moves this offseason, it may be my last.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i would hope he would listen to the new h.c. he chose. otherwise we are still in trouble
     
  16. JetsVilma28

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    My hate for the Pats runs deep these days. I thought GPC would have taken place years ago, yet here I watch them mounting another Super Bowl campaign.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    I disagree. I think that one of the reasons this team is in trouble and has the talent deficiencies it does is that the GMs have listened Rex regarding prospects in the draft. IMO the draft should be the GM's domain. The HC can make requests, but they basically ought to be considered with a grain of salt.
     
  18. rammagen

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    no i dont think so because it has come out he did not like a few of the second round picks like hill. I think idzik took his own picks and because of injury/poor talent evaluation the players have not performed as they should that is not the coach that is the gm failing to put together a talented enough roster.
    That said rex has run his course here
     
  19. displacedfan

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    I think the pick is the most important. Mentioned this in another thread but we don't bottom out as often as the Bills or Browns or Raiders in the past 10 years. But when we do, it hasn't been in QB friendly drafts and it hasn't been a superstar impact player.

    So no matter what Woody does, I actually think the pick and who we get drives our future more. I don't think things will stay status quo, but I do think if whoever is new that comes in and whiffs on this, they'll be gone and we'll be here in a few years.
     
  20. bandwagon

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    By that standard, Kraft should have let go of BB long time ago.
    While BB makes lemonade, RR apologists keep pointing to someone -- anyone! -- else.
    And they have a billboard!
    Rex Ryan fetishism has reached frightening proportions.
     

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