Practice Squad Hunting For A QB

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  1. James Hasty

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    Practice Squad Hunting For A QB

    Ron Chenoy-USA TODAY Sports

    If Geno Smith fails in his resurgence attempt, where do the Jets go? Is there any point playing someone like Michael Vick when it's likely he'll be looking for a new team next season?

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    First of all I would like to say that I am by no means saying these quarterbacks will ever amount to anything. All of these players are on the practice squad for a reason, they simply weren't good enough to make their respective teams 53 man roster. However most teams have a better quarterback situation than the New York Jets and if we're being honest with each other, that's not really difficult.

    The Jets quarterback competition consists of the following:


    1) Geno Smith - A 2nd year Quarterback who has done very little to suggest he'll ever be an average QB let alone a franchise QB. He still struggles to read defenses and he'll often make terrible decisions. I'm not 100% sure he'll never make that jump, after all he's only in year two, however it's becoming less and less likely.

    2) Michael Vick - An ageing quarterback who turns the ball over for fun, makes poor decisions and who's inability to stay healthy make him completely unreliable for any extended action in the NFL.

    3) Matt Simms - A player who has a rocket arm but little else. He doesn't really read the game, and he doesn't give you the impression that he'll ever be able to learn either. Why he's still on the team is anyone's guess, but I see very little upside to keeping him on the roster.


    Lets not forget that we did draft a QB this year (Boyd) who's currently playing for the Boston Brawlers in the Fall Experimental Football League (FXFL). The less said about that emtotional choice by Rex Ryan the better. He got his hand-picked man and he didn't last a single off-season.

    I was reading about some of the players on practice squads and how they developed like Arian Foster, I was also talking to people about my philosophy of sitting a Quarterback for as long as possible before having to hand over the reigns. I started thinking about some of the Quarterbacks who may be worth at least kicking the tires on. I didn't want to give up anything in return, so the practice squad was the obvious choice. Here are a few QB's I wouldn't mind taking a look at over the course of the next 5 weeks.

    We would need to keep him on our active roster, but I'm sure as a 2-9 team we can manage that just fine.

    David Fales - Chicago Bears Practice Squad

    A lot of people liked David Fales coming out of San Jose state. At 6'3 and 213lb's he was the prototypical size. The knock on him came down to his arm strength. Although we worked through his reads well and delivered the ball with accuracy, he didn't have the zip that you'd like. However during his final year he showed a fantastic ablity to limit turnovers and place the ball in the right places. He played in a QB friendly system for San Jose, but he's certainly got more upside than Matt Simms. Fales is a player I'd like to see us poach from the Bears.

    Keith Wenning - Baltimore Ravens Practice Squad

    I saw Wenning in the pre-season and was quite impressed with his ability to work through his progressions and deliver the ball on time and with great accuracy. Baltimore waived him and signed him to the practice squad. In his final year at Ball State he threw for over 4000 yards, tossing 35 touchdowns to 7 interceptions. Again he didn't have the arm strength you'd want and also struggled with mobility in the pocket. However during the draft process, many thought he'd find good success in a WCO and I agree. Worth taking a punt on? Perhaps!

    Garrett Gilbert - St Louis Rams Practice Squad

    Gilbert is a big man at 6'4 and over 220lb's but he struggled in the pre-season with accuracy issues. At SMU he operated a dink-and-dunk passing game which inflated his numbers and ensured when he got in a rythmn it was hard to stop him. Showed excellent arm strength through college and at his pro day. He's extremely ram but he does work through his progressions to find his 2nd and 3rd read, although he may need some time to groom.

    Zac Dysert - Denver Broncos Practice Squad

    Zac was drafted in 2013 and spent the 2013 season on the Denver 53 man roster. However this year he has spent the time on the practice squad. He completed 12-18 passes for 106 yards a touchdown and no interceptions in the pre-season and he came out of Miami (OH) with a lot of talent. He's a good athlete, with a good arm that includes a merchancally sound over the arm release. I've been most impressed with his ability to handle the pass rush. He throws from the pocket, or on the move and can operate from both the shotgun and under centre. I'm not sure how a team that has no potential at QB has failed to pick him up. Of all the players on this list, I would love to kick the tires on Zac Dysert and I feel he has the most potential.

    I'm not saying any of these players will amount to much. However it's worth taking the risk when you have little to lose. I think we all appreciate that Matt Simms will never be the franchise QB, so why not experiment with someone else for a few weeks.This is a free play for the Jets and for some reason they keep spiking the ball instead of taking a deep shot.
     
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  2. Turbocharged23

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    I think it's a good idea. The link should be to ganggreennation.com.

    I'd also add in Connor Shaw. The caveat is we can only pick one at this point of the above as we have to hold on for three weeks.
     
  3. Aewhistory

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    I tend to think these guys won't amount to anything either, BUT, most teams don't give these guys much of a chance either and they certainly don't waste much in the way of resources trying to "develop" these players. I've always wondered how many potential NFLers end up out of the game simply because they didn't fit a system, a mold, needed more time, etc? I dunno. In any event, I honestly think we have nothing to lose.... We just may not have much to gain either. :(
     
  4. mr nyjet

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    just bring up guys on our squad and see who can play. we can go qb hunting in the draft and after, signing as many as three.

    i would cut vick, johnson, babin, pace, colon, and a couple of others right now in order to clear roster space.

    send a message to the rest of the passengers on the ship of state that nobody is safe and everybody has to earn a spot on the roster.
     
  5. Faux machine

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    I can't stand articles like this. Hey guys the jets are so bad they should get anyone else to play QB. Who cares who, just get any asshole off a practice squad (but not Simms) and let him have a shot starting for the Jets. Can't be worse right? LOL!

    Never write about the Jets again. Fucking stupid.
     
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    You know I myself am not fond of political correctness message board police. But isn't using the colloquial term for sexual intercourse in its most pejorative sense as an adjective tied to the colloquial term for mental disability crossing a line at some point? People with such disabilities are to be equated with the hated?

    Of course Faux did not intend his term to be accurate. So why is it okay to use that term as an expression of hatred, made by comparing the writer in question to someone who is disabled and has the FUCKING nerve to be so?

    I suggest using some other term in the future.
     
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    Its just not that practical to grab a guy and start him without him kow the system. The terminology alone makes it very difficult.
    On paper it sounds like a good idea though
     
  8. JetsNation06

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    Yeah I just can't stand the whole mentality around this franchise. I don't think many understand the dynamics working with the Jets. Everything about this franchise screams mediocrity and setting the bar too low right now. That mentality has pervaded every level of this organization. I think the only other two franchises in the entire league who have an equally inept outlook are the Raiders and the Skins.

    No, I don't want to go dumpster diving to find our next QB. I want this franchise to do things the right way for once. Find a HC and GM, or a HC who will assume GM duties too. Let this new braintrust select a QB and develop him the right way. It really can be as straightforward as this. Enough with these shortcuts, build the thing from scratch with a highly rated, proven QB and do it the right way.
     
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  9. Faux machine

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    It's cute that you felt the need to use so many big words to complain about one.
     
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    I thought it was a pretty good article. A QB that can go thur his progressions plus read a defense would be a first for this team in many years. Ok so these QB candidates don't have cannon arms. I get the angst over this issue. None the less one of these guys could very well turn into a game manager type QB and that would be something.
    I wouldn't mind if we cleared three roster spots and took three of the top candidates tomorrow. That would give them almost 8 months of development time. Hey, you never know and besides what harm does it do?
    Seriously, if you disagree, show me the harm.
     
  11. James Hasty

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    This should not be looked at as a knock on Simms as much as a knock on the front office for giving Geno yet another shot or starting Vick instead of giving Simms or one of these practice squad guys a try out. While I think anyone who follows these boards would describe me as one of Simms biggest supporters the fact is that for whatever reason, the front office is just not going to give him a shot. For the writer to overlook Simms and jump straight to the practice squad guys probably means that he does not believe that the front office has any faith in Simms as a potential starter.
     
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    You seen Sanchez play lately?
     
  14. JetFanInPA

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    What is with this desire to write off Simms despite hardly having seen him play? Can we at least see him prepare as a starter and play a few games before "practice squad hunting" for QBs? Jeeeeez
     
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    Isn't the bold part of the reason why we are in the mess we are in now?
     
  16. LIJetsFan

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    Yeah he is actually completing screen passes which amazes me. None the less he is still as inconsistent as ever. I will grant that he is better than Geno and might actually contribute the the Eagles post season run but if you ask if I want him back as a Jet the ans is no.
     
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    Nice dodge, but I accept your compliment.
     
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    I like the article. It's not a bad idea to go looking for QB's on other teams extended rosters. The Jets have problems at the position. That's because of who they have on the roster at the position. Could picking up one of the guys mentioned above for a look really be a bad thing in that situation?
     
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    I wanted to draft Fales in the last draft and while this thread could be fun if their on the practice squad they most likely will never be a good starting QB. Having said that I would much rather have the guys you've listed over Matt Simms but still ... #SuckForTheDuck
     

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