when does Rex get his pink slip?

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What week does Rex Ryan get fired

  1. After the New England game

    7.9%
  2. Week 8

    0.9%
  3. Week 9

    0 vote(s)
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  4. Week 10

    0.9%
  5. Later

    2.6%
  6. Makes it out of the season

    64.0%
  7. Not at all

    23.7%
  1. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    At the same time.. That shit doesn't matter.

    The season isn't over. The season has been a big failure so far...

    We'll see.
     
  2. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the words "so far" were in my post as well.
    And my mistake, obviously it doesn't matter that we are 1-6 and have lost two very winnable games at home.
     
  3. MenOverGod

    MenOverGod Well-Known Member

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    Idgaf about the media.
     
  4. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    It's fucking over.
     
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  5. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Yep... That's what they said last year too, everyone (including yourself) knew Rex was going to get canned at years end.

    I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
     
  6. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    I'm a point where I don't wanna win meaningless games

    I want the best shot at the best talent in the draft

    Last year we were a bottom 5 team talent wise picking 18th

    That's a recipe for mediocrity and football purgatory

    Never good enough to contend, never bad enough to get Elite top end talent
     
  7. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    That's bullshit man. The Lions picked in the top 10 so many years over the past decade...

    2002: 3rd
    2003: 2nd
    2004: 6th
    2005: 10th
    2006: 9th
    2007: 2nd
    2009: 1st
    2010: 2nd
    2013: 5th
    2014: 10th

    Draft position doesn't really matter that much. Muhammad Wilkerson was drafted with the 30th overall pick. The best WR in the 2012 draft was taken with the 45th pick. Revis was a middle of the first round pick. The difference in talent level of these players does not diminish at some kind of exponential rate, these guys are all very talented. Sheldon Richardson is easily the best player out of the 2013 draft so far and he was taken with the 13th pick. You really want to watch over half a season of garbage just to get a top 5 pick when the chances aren't even in favor of the player chosen there becoming any better than the player chosen 18th?
     
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  8. Sandman

    Sandman Well-Known Member

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    Wanting to lose out to get a high draft pick is just assanine. We have proven that even with a high draft pick you are just a liable to pick up a scrub. Dewayne Robertson, Mark Sanchez to name just two and only from our own drafts. In some ways it seems we are more prone to picking up elite talent in the middle toe end of the first round. Revis, Richardson, Wilkerson etc.

    Of course is there was a talent that was way and above the rest that would be one side of the argument. But then you need the #1 pick and we are not bad enough to get that pick either.

    People saying here that we had zero talent on this team last year. Well Rex got a zero talent team to 8-8. Just imagine what we would do with a somewhat talented offence.

    Keep Rex. Draft nearly all offence. Pick up a FA CB & Guard. Give him one more year and im sure we will be a much better team.
     
  9. GangGreenBlues

    GangGreenBlues Well-Known Member

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    Gotta disagree with you here. You are right that draft position doesnt completely determine how a player is going to turn out: since the NFL draft is such a crapshoot, a #1 overall pick can easily become a bust, and a 6th rounder can become a hall of famer. But that's not the same as saying higher picks aren't better. They are. I couldn't find any good article on this, so I did a little googling and found this website:

    http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/pick/

    It shows you players taken in the NFL draft since the beginning, and you can sort it by the pick (1st, 2nd, 18th, etc). I had a feeling that while there were many busts taken with high picks, and many successes taken with lower picks, on average, better players were taken high. So I looked through several pick numbers, from 1980 to about 2012 to see how many big names were drafted under that pick (disclaimer: I don't know that much about 80s and early 90s football, so I might have missed some, might have missed some later too, feel free to correct me):

    1st:
    Andrew Luck
    Mario Williams
    Eli Manning
    Michael Vick
    Peyton Manning
    Orlando Pace
    Keyshawn Johnson
    Drew Bledsoe
    Troy Aikman
    Bruce Smith
    John Elway

    2nd:
    Von Miller
    Ndamukong Suh
    Chris Long
    Calvin Johnson
    Reggie Bush
    Julius Peppers
    LaVarr Arrington
    Donovan McNabb
    Tony Boselli
    Marshall Faulk
    Eric Dickerson
    Lawrence Taylor

    3rd:
    Marcell Dareus
    Gerald McCoy
    Matt Ryan
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Andre Johnson
    Simeon Rice
    Steve McNair
    Garrison Hearst
    Barry Sanders
    Anthony Munoz

    13th:
    John Abraham
    Takeo Spikes
    Tony Gonzalez

    15th:
    Jason Pierre-Paul
    Albert Haynesworth?

    16th:
    Troy Polamalu
    Jevon Kearse
    Hugh Douglas
    Jerry Rice

    18th:
    Joe Flacco
    Art Monk

    So anyways, even assuming I missed some, the difference is pretty big. The first 3 picks have yielded teams a LOT more great players than mid first round picks.
     
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  10. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Assuming this list is entirely accurate, this post deserves it's own thread.

    Well done.
     
  11. jcass10

    jcass10 Well-Known Member

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    He wasnt really put in much of a situation to compete, but he will more than likely be the fall guy.

    I still dont get why he was kept for this year, if he is just going to get the axe at the end of the year. Idzik may as well have gotten his guy to coach the team this year to develop familiarity. So I think either Idzik intends on keeping Rex as the long term guy, and they are on the same page, or Woody made Idzik keep Rex.
     
  12. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    I really want to reply to this but I've I'll have to do it later today
     
  13. JAMESDEARTH

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    probly already has one

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