Not for anything but Geno needs stability at wide receiver. Nicks can be a big play guy with strong hands but he's on a one year deal to try to hit the open market for a huge deal following the season. He also had a big dropsies problem last year.
the 50 catch thing is possible..hope not but not because he sucks. I would think many of us agree that where he came from and who was passing to him+being a Jet now without a real proven number 2 besides him will create problems for him if he demands number 1 attention. But for the team...the team...this was a great signing even if he catches 50 passes. Teams last year would put 8 in the box daring Geno to beat them and he had no real weapons. Teams might have to put 8 in the box just to help out with stopping what should be the best running attack we have had in a half decade. Take into account that if teams want to put more attention on Decker...Jace and Kerley will have really good years. If they decide to just play straight...Decker will have get his catches. This year...compared to previous years...its a win win. I feel great about the Jet offense and it does not need Decker to catch 70 passes to be alot better. Also with Geno using his legs...this is the hardest matchup for defenses playing the Jets in years. While there might not be a superstar option...there are at least 5 really good options. This offense will really surprise this year. Kerley baby....this guy is going to break out this year.
It would be nice if this team had a big time reciever, it has been really difficult to get a read on our QBs considering the individuals they were throwing to were not exactly the best.
Yeah...would be great....but I like the several headed options too. Other then Nelson or whoever will end up being opposite Decker... having Cumberland, Jace Amaro, Johnson,Ivory,Powell, Kerly. What would be great...I mean great...is if one of these rookies with speed surprised. It would be huge...really huge.
jay, I think it's too much to expect that one of them steps up and becomes some elite player, but things happen. However, the names you just mentioned can combine enough of their talent to make this offense effective. Maybe in a year or two we can expect names to jump out at you, but if Marty M is half the OC we want him to be, he will be able to scheme an attack that teams can't just pinpoint.
totally agree abyz..totally. Add to that Geno using his legs in a smart way. I dont know...Debbie downer here is feeling awfully good about the offense. Shockingly, I think Geno by years end will be a proven qb too. As far as the rookies...Im not talking about 80 catches for 1400 yards...just enough where they take playing time away from Nelson by being a deep threat with some success. Nelson? He seems dinged up on every play...and I dont know...would prefer some kind of deep threat.
Maybe we overpaid a bit for him, but he has a good locker room presence, is still young, reliable in the red zone and when it comes to moving the chains and he has no injury history. We got these guys too. WRs: Kerley, Nelson, Saunders, Amaro, Cumberland, Sudfeld RBs: Johnson, Ivory, Powell Geno can use his legs as well. I'm confident Marty is going to figure out how to utilize everyone we got on this jets Offense, which is much better than what we had this time last season.
Decker is a number one receiver. Someone who catches over 80 balls and over 1k yards should be classified as a number one
That's your only comparison? The whole Broncos team played like shit. Superbowl wins are based on team effort. At least the Steelers vs Cardinals superbowl was even from the get go. Santonio Holmes in 2011 was amazing for us. He only played 12 games, had 52 catches, 746 yards, and 6tds. What is even more fascinating is that Holmes 5th year was when he joined the New York Jets. Why is that fascinating? Because this is also Deckers 5th year and he just joined the New York Jets. I won't declare which receiver is better until Decker is done with the Jets.
Statues everywhere are offended by that statement. Mt Rushmore could catch more passes than Hill, and they don't have hands.
Top 4 WR Megatron Green Gordon Dez 90 0 playoff wins total I'd take a balanced core over a true #1 every day of the week
Decker's headed for a 60 catch, 750-800 yds, 7 TD season ... and our fanbase is still going to be dancing around pretending he's a #1. I could see him getting to 1000 yds and 10 TDs of if Vick starts early, but how likely is that? We definitely overpaid; you're essentially wasting money on non-elite WRs if your starting QB is in the bottom 20% of the league - either pay top dollar for top talent, or live with the David Nelsons of the world for a little over league minimum.
No offense, but you just named a bunch of scrubs (with the exception of Chris Johnson and maybe Amaro) who, at best, might start for bad offensive teams (Ivory, Cumberland) and at worst should be making league minimum (Nelson, Saunders, Sudfeld, Powell). Just because you named them and said *hand clap* "Ta-da!", doesn't actually make them good. If you did the same thing with another bad offensive team ... "We've got these guys too. WRs: Streater, Moore, Rivera, Holmes, Mastrud RBs: McFadden, Jennings, Reece" ... you wouldn't be pretending the team's got a chance of being good (or even not really bad); you'd be saying "Holy S---! The Raiders have nobody." And the reason I picked the Raiders is because they had the same points scored and yardage as we did last year. Absent a Geno Smith miracle (or Vick playing and remaining healthy), this offense is in bad shape.
Beyond Cumberland and Kerley, Geno didn't have any go-to guys last season. If the presence of Decker helps Geno in his development then that's a big pay back of his contract in my eyes. Lining up with a corps of Hill, Gates and the rookies in 2014 would have destroyed confidence throughout the team.
I listened to the interview and that guy seriously just has a bug up his ass. He tried to argue that the guy constantly trips over his own feet, and that teams put their worst corner back on him. He claimed it was a stretch to even call him a #2 WR. This is ludicrous. Obviously with the emergence of Thomas on the Broncos, the #1 CB was usually on him. But even so, Decker was still able to put up very good numbers in 2012 and 2013 even after Welker was added as well. Schlereth is a moron, clearly he has some kind of hatred for the guy. Let's break this down. Thomas and Decker were both drafted in 2010. The first year they were both rookies and neither produced that well. 2011 with Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow playing QB: Thomas: 11 Games, 70 targets, 32 receptions for 551 yards and 4 TDs. Decker: 16 Gamers, 95 targets, 44 receptions for 612 yards and 8 TDs. Eddie Royal: 12 games, 19 receptions for 155 yards and 1 TD. In 2011 Thomas missed the first 5 games of the season. Eddie Royal missed games 3, 4 and 5, and then one in december. In these first 5 games, Eric Decker was the undisputed #1 WR. During this time he scored half of his TDs (4) and 266 yards. It seems he can definitely handle #1 WR duties, even with Orton throwing him the ball. Based on the number of targets, Decker remained the #1 WR until December when Thomas began to emerge and get more targets. When Manning joined the team in 2012, obviously their production went through the roof. Both played every game. 2012: Thomas: targets: 141 (94 rec), yards: 1434, TDs: 10 Decker: targets: 123 (85 rec), yards: 1064, TDs: 14 So average yards per target for Thomas was 10.2, and for decker was 8.7. This really isn't a huge difference and Decker was better in the red zone. Thomas became a beast that year and was the #1 WR, but to call Decker barely a #2? Schlereth must be smoking crack. 2013: Thomas: targets: 143 (92 rec), yards: 1430, TDs: 14 Yards per target: 10 Decker: targets: 137 (87 rec), yards: 1288, TDs: 11 Yards per target: 9.4 Welker: targets: 110 (73 rec), yards: 778, TDs: 10 Yards per target: 7.0 Welker was injured for 3 games. Clear as day that Decker was the #2 WR, and honestly the targets were very close to Thomas. That team pretty much had 3 #1 WRs. If you look at targets per game Decker and Welker were virtually even and Thomas was slightly ahead. Saying that Decker is barely a #2 is a load of shit. He's nearly a #1! Maybe Decker banged his daughter or something and he's upset about it. I've never heard a guy rant like that about something so trivial with so little to actually back up his view. This shows that Decker clearly has the ability to be a #1, even without big time play makers around him, and then with playmakers around him he does even better and excels as a #2. Obviously the Jets do not have a Demaryius Thomas to balance out the field, but Kerley has proved himself reliable and Nelson can get it done as well. Schlepacock clearly doesn't know what he's talking about here.
Yeah which creates a divide because some people use the first definition, some people use the second definition, and others have their own definition.
What's also facinating is that the Jets haven't developed a stud WR of there own since Key Shawn.We can now add Hill to the list of failed WRs,Kerley is the closest we have come unless you count Lavernous Coles or Cotchery
