Ed Reed?

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Should We Invite Reed to Camp to Serve in Some Capacity (be it as a Player or Coach)?

  1. Yes

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  2. Yes, but only provided it is not at the expense of a roster spot

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  3. No

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  1. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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  2. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

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    Reed, in addition to being n excellent athlete, is an incredibly focused and hard working player on and off the field who dedicates endless hours to film study and preparation. If you have time to do a little research, you should also be able to dig up extremely positive testimonials from former teammates whose games he helped with his leadership, instruction and advice, former Jet, James Ihedigbo, being one of them. To summarize Reed's greatness as simply being the result or product of his considerable natural talent does a tremendous disservice him and blindly overlooks the enormous amount of time, effort and work that Reed did in order to become one of the all time greatest players at his position. His obsessive film study of opposing QBs enabled him to anticipate so many scenarios and plays that lead to interceptions and TDs. Interceptions and TDs that were as much (if not more) a product of his being an uncanny student of the game in general and opponent's tendencies in particular as they were of his natural athletic ability. His success was certainly not the result of him being some athletically gifted, idiot savant at Safety.

    Moments ago, I just did a random, arbitrary search under "former teammates praise Ed Reed" and found this blurb from a Ravens.com site:

    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news...r-Ravens/81fc73aa-f38c-4f57-bbd1-00cbb69d8115


    So as the 35-year-old safety nears the end of his Hall of Fame career, could he see himself eventually working in the Ravens’ organization?

    “I don’t know how that’s going to go. If a position opens up or something like that, of course,” Reed told Baltimore media on a conference call ahead of Sunday’s game with the New York Jets.

    “I know football. You have a lot of people that work around football that never even played the game. If you can’t give Ed a job, I don’t know what to tell you.”

    The 12-year veteran was a respected voice of leadership throughout his time with the Ravens, and had a reputation as a film nut. He was also known for mentoring younger players, and General Manager Ozzie Newsome said previously that he could see a place in the organization for Reed in coaching or player development.


    Maybe he can still contribute something of significant value as a player. Perhaps not. Maybe he can simply come in and help our defensive backfield speed along its development (which NEEDS help, no matter how much promising talent we have assembled thus far.)
     
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  3. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

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    You're not sure about whether Ed Reed would make a good coach because you don't know anything at all about him (his last name is Reed and not Reede) and don't seem to have the time or inclination to do a little homework about one of the all time best Safeties in NFL history to form an educated opinion about why he would, in fact, most likely make an excellent coach.
     
  4. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

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    Ed Reed IS Jim Leonhard PLUS the size, speed and physical natural talent. That's all you need to know.
     
  5. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    My first thought is no thanks, we have 3 solid safeties in Pryor, Allen and Landry.

    On the other hand, would you rather have Landry play that 3rd safety spot or Reed? I doubt both can or should make the final roster.
     
  6. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    If hes still trying to get his pension then their have got to be other more desperate teams. He was barely hanging on last year
    and Rex did it because of his connections to the Ravens. We have more than enough depth at the position and enough veterans. Getting rid of Landry would be a HUGE MISTAKE!!!!!
     
  7. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    I said in the beginning I didn't know if Reed could coach or not. My response was to others who assumed he'd be a great coach based only on his career stats.

    Who would you rather coach our young WRs? Chrebet of Keyshawn.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah I know, that's where the "might" comes in.
     
  11. jtrain

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    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20..._to_be_one_of_the_top_corners_in_the_nfl.html

    FLORHAM PARK – On the final day of the Jets’ 2013 season, one of their promising, young players offered thanks to an aging legend who would soon leave the team. The Jets had just defeated the Dolphins, and rookie cornerback Dee Milliner had picked off two passes while shutting down wide receiver Mike Wallace.

    Jets coach Rex Ryan mentioned afterward that Ed Reed, the 35-year-old future Hall of Fame safety whom the Jets signed midseason, helped Milliner through the latter stages of his rocky first season. Milliner referred to Reed as “another coach on the field.”

    The Jets declined to re-sign Reed during free agency, but Milliner’s teammates believe he will build on his time spent with Reed – and use it to excel this season.

    The Jets desperately need Milliner to play like the No. 9 overall pick. They did not sign an elite cornerback in free agency after cutting Antonio Cromartie, so Dimitri Patterson, a bargain free agent pickup, is now scheduled to start opposite Milliner.

    This is Milliner’s opportunity to show he can defend elite receivers on a weekly basis.

    “I feel like Dee has matured,” Jets reserve cornerback Ellis Lankster said Wednesday at an NFL Play 60 event at the team’s facility. “Dee knows the game now. The last four weeks of the season, Ed Reed took Dee under his wing. He just taught him the game. As of right now, I feel like, in the future or this year, Dee is going to be one of the top corners in the NFL.”

    To be fair to Milliner, the Jets’ entire secondary struggled last season, when the Jets finished 22nd in the NFL in passing defense. Cromartie, who played through a hip injury, looked completely ineffective at times. For his part, Milliner was benched three times before his strong finish, with three picks in the final two games, as he earned NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month honors for December.

    Now, because the Jets did not land a top free agent corner this offseason, because Lankster and Darrin Walls are better fits as backups, and because former first-round pick Kyle Wilson has proven far more effective as a slot corner than an outside corner, the onus is on Milliner to show significant growth in Year 2.

    Excelling as a rookie corner in the NFL has always been difficult. Milliner’s development was hampered by shoulder surgery that sidelined him for offseason workouts, a calf injury that limited him in training camp, and a hamstring strain that prevented him from playing in three games. He didn’t get his first interception until the second-to-last game.

    Ryan has expressed optimism about the impact of Milliner being healthy enough to fully participate in offseason workouts this season. Milliner’s teammates also see the lasting results of Milliner’s time spent with Reed.

    Reed brought Milliner into the film room several times late last season, passing along wisdom he gained during his 12-year career.

    “(Reed’s) knowledge of the game is phenomenal, so any time you get a chance to learn from him, you’re only going to benefit from it,” safety Jaiquawn Jarrett said Wednesday. “I think Dee is going to have a great year. He’s been doing great in his workouts. He’s playing more confident. He’s vocal. I think Dee is going to have a really good season.”


    Jarrett said Reed’s impact on Milliner “was evident in the way he started to play toward the end (of the season). His game elevated. Unfortunately, he didn’t get the reps that he needed in (training) camp. But when he got the opportunity and Ed got with him, his game elevated. You saw that Dee Milliner is capable of playing day in and day out.”

    Now comes Milliner’s chance to prove his teammates right.


    This is the main reason I want Reed back. With this much youth, I want him back to mentor the young players. Get them ready to take over. In addition, his game may have dipped but a healthy reed is better than more than half the safeties in today's league and when we make crucial mistakes late in the season I trust reed holding down the fort.
     
  12. Altoona

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    I apologize if I was excessively harsh or disrespectful. I don't understand the purpose of your question and have no opinion because I have no knowledge whether either interested or inclined toward becoming a receivers coach.
     
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    Thank you for the great post, jtrain.
     
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    Actually the Jets did try to sign Reed but he wouldn't come out of his cardboard filled dumpster abode #EdReedishomeless
     
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    Lol he really does look homeless.Maybe Mark Sanchez can raise some charity for him by selling more of his jerseys from memorable games he cost us to lose
     
  16. No Fly Zone

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    Looks like Reed has confirmed via an AP article what everyone thought, he wants to play this year. I'm all for bringing him back provided he isn't starting and playing the majority of snaps. If he's open to splitting time and eventually taking rotational snaps and if he comes at a reasonable price then it really strengthens our safety depth and allows the team to better position Landry to form a solid SS base.

    SS -

    Pryor
    Landry

    FS -

    Allen
    Reed
    Jarrett

    If Allen is up to the task with Reed supporting him or with them splitting time until Allen is ready for the majority of snaps then its worth bringing Reed into camp. The issue is does he want to start or be a role player? Can Jarrett step up his game and push Allen for the starting role? If so it helps greatly.
     
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    I like this except I think that Allen will slide to SS and Pryor will play FS.
     
  18. al_toon_88

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    I would love to have him back. As bad and as washed up as he supposedly was, he still led the team in INTs.

    The guy can still be a great mentor / teacher / locker room presence. I'd venture to say it's not a coincidence Dee Milliner started balling at the end of the year after Ed Reed's arrival.
     
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  19. Jets Esq.

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    Reed would sign for the vet's minimum, the issue is whether you want to give him playing time that could go to a longer-term solution, and the fact that of course you'd have to cut someone to make room for him on the roster.

    Reed has said that he's not going to sign during training camp; and he made comments about how players get injured, and he might sign during the season. He said he's not going to announce that he's retiring if he chooses to retire- which means that maybe he will keep things open-ended and try again in 2015. There's a good chance that a team will sign him during the season, but it's highly random and you never know.

    As for making him a coach, right now Reed knows that he can still play, and he'd much rather do that. He's not going to lock himself into a coaching position when he knows that he can be an actual player, by just waiting for an injury and throwing his hat into the ring. He also might not financially need to take a coaching gig. There's no doubt that he'd be a great coach immediately, but there's major doubt as to whether that's something that interests him / if he needs the money.
     
  20. Chris St. John

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    It's like some people forgot how terrible he was last year...

    If he wants to come as a fan to watch the games he can come, I have no problem with that.
     

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