I don't think we have enough information to give any fair prediction to this question. I suppose you could go off last preseason where Aboushi struggled at a more challenging position as a 2nd stringer..while Campbell held his own & showed some decent athleticism as a very limited 3rd stringer. Dozier likely needs a year coming from subdivision..but hard to know till he starts getting real reps. This may sound crazy but they should really give Schlauderoff a shot. He has been a very solid back-up for a while now & is truthfully a much better guard than he is a center. He was moved to Center b/c they had no one else. Morningweg already said that Colon will be back for TC..so this could all be for nothing. That said it would be nice to see one of these young linemen break through & form a new right side.
This O Line is kinda sketchy I honestly am not sure what to expect.Colon with his constant knee issues,Mangold and D Brick getting up there in age,Winters is a question mark,Breno Guacomoli should easily replace Howard but we don't know that for sure.With CJ and Ivory back there we need them to perform at a high level not to mention giving Geno the time he needs to throw an interception
I'm still mad that we let Slauson go. With the number of draft picks we've used to have a seemingly endless parade of just new guys with bad play, that move is looking increasingly bad.
I love the depth of competition here. There might be some tough decisions here on roster spots. Not all these guys are gonna make it and if a couple of these guys step up and play well don't be surprised if Colon doesn't make the roster. They'll keep the upcoming young guys with promise over a stop gap veteran like Colon. They were high on Freeman last year so I say give him a fair shot. Dozier has the physical tools but it all depends on how quickly he develops mentally. Winters is a Colon clone with that nasty interior fiestiness you like from guard play but he's on notice if he doesn't improve. Tough to know what you have with Campbell and Aboushi but they kept these guys on the 53 last year because they didn't want to lose them so we'll see. Schlauderaff will be cut barring injuries.
I am as concerned about the LG spot as I am about RG if Willie can't return in time. Winters was a liability last year. http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20...r_is_going_to_be_a_whole_different_story.html Despite not playing a full season, he led all guards in sacks allowed (10), and he also allowed 15 quarterback hurries, according to Pro Football Focus. The site ranked him 77th out of 81 guards in the NFL, including 73rd in pass blocking and 75th in run blocking.
Remember this guy? http://www.patriots.com/media-cente...uglielmo/e92f061f-17fe-49c8-90db-1e15ededab09
Wasted energy my man. Slauson isn't that good. He was let go for good reason. If Idzik can't upgrade the LG position from Slauson, he needs to give up football. If I recall correctly, Slauson wanted too much money or was offered a ridiculous amount by the Bears and the Jets let him walk. If you'll recall, they didn't have much cap space last year at all. It's been what 2 drafts since Slauson was allowed to leave? Such an eternity. It's not like the Jets had any other holes or needs or anything. Get real. Winters was a 3rd round pick and a conversion from LT to OG and adjusting to the level of competition. The other draft picks are low-round picks, except Dozier. It took Slauson a year or two to develop, and even then he was just a jag. I'm sure that if Winters proves he can't get the job done this year and neither Aboushi, Freeman, Campbell or Dozier develop into quality starters, that Idzik will make a trade, sign a TC cut or address the position more significantly in next year's FA period and/or draft.
You're probably right. He was still the best guard we had since Faneca left, and despite our best efforts and draft picks Colon has been our best guard since, which isn't exactly impressive. Outside of D-brick and Mangold, we've let our two best O-lineman walk in Slauson and Howard walk. I hope we can field a decent O-line this year, or else we have some serious problems.
I am really split on Aboushi or Dozier, but I went with Aboushi. We saw with Winters last year what can happen when you throw a rookie mid-round pick into a starting offensive line role. I actually think he showed some good things at times, but there were obviously some serious growing pains there. For that reason I don't think the Jets will start Dozier, although I think he was an amazing draft pick and has the potential to be a decade long cornerstone on the line. It's just too much to expect an FCS level guy though to make the jump to starting NFL guard right away.
From NJ.com yesterday: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/05/jets_otas_five_observations_from_the_first_week.html
Waaait a minute you chicks!! Did you mean RU Fan (referring to that absurd "Abousi's a Jew-hating Terrorist--CUT HIM NOW!!" thread)?? LOL NC, I like this "Dalton Freeman" post post. He looked good up at Cortland before he got hurt, but as far as Aboushi being on the "smallish" size, Aboushi's got 15 pounds on Freeman. Freeman however didn't look short, i.e. looked like he could fit another 10 lbs. of muscle to get up to 300. The one guy who looked smallish (standing 10 feet away from them on the sideline at Cortland) was Winters. Then again he was standing next to D'Brick and Austin Howard (who is a bona fide monster).
Jets' Dakota Dozier focuses on 'being nasty' as he moves from offensive tackle to guard http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20..._he_moves_from_offensive_tackle_to_guard.html By Darryl Slater/The Star-Ledger The Jets’ newest offensive guard, rookie Dakota Dozier, has some helpful resources at his disposal as he transitions from college tackle to NFL guard. The most obvious is left guard Brian Winters, the Jets’ third-round draft pick last year, who made the same transition while starting the final 12 games of 2013. Right guard Willie Colon also played right tackle from 2007-11 for the Steelers. He moved to guard with them in 2012, and was the Jets’ starting right guard last year. The Jets also have a five-time Pro Bowler and two-time first-team All-Pro at center: Nick Mangold, who is preparing for his ninth season in the NFL. Those three men provide a wide range of expertise for Dozier as he learns how to play guard at this level. “Just trying to get any tips I can about playing inside,” Dozier said. “I know Brian is one year ahead of me, so it’s fresh in his mind, what it’s like to make that adjustment. I’m definitely going to use their knowledge to help me, for sure. Whether it’s during drills, I’m watching them. I’m listening to whatever they’re telling me. Whatever it is, I’m going to learn from them as much as I can.” One of the tips they have given Dozier so far: “Just don’t get frustrated,” he said. They told him that when he has gotten beat on a block during organized team activities – a segment of the Jets’ offseason workouts that began last week. The Jets have conducted three of their 10 OTAs. They have three more this week (Monday, Wednesday and Thursday) and four next week (Monday through Thursday). This part of the year is all about learning for Dozier, whom the Jets picked in the fourth round out of Furman. There, he built himself into a NFL draft pick despite having just one other scholarship offer coming out of high school, from Appalachian State, according to Rivals.com. There seems a good chance Dozier will get to build himself into an NFL guard this season away from the spotlight, unlike Winters in 2013. Last year, Vladimir Ducasse struggled as the Jets’ starting left guard, and they had to turn to Winters. Presuming Winters can make the necessary strides in Year 2, the left guard spot will still belong to him. Colon is coming off a biceps tear and, most recently, arthroscopic knee surgery. He is expected to be ready for training camp. But he is 31 and his ability to remain healthy is a legitimate concern. The Jets have moved second-year pro Oday Aboushi from tackle to right guard, to take Colon’s reps in OTAs. They also have another second-year pro as a reserve guard, Will Campbell. And they have center/guard Caleb Schlauderaff, a career backup. Aboushi, at this early juncture, would seem to be the Jets’ top understudy option at guard. But considering the unproven nature of Campbell and Schlauderaff, Dozier might find himself in the mix as the second understudy. A lot depends on how well Dozier takes to his new position. At least at this point, the Jets don’t need Dozier to show he can play immediately. It seems more likely that he will transition to the NFL as a backup this year, as the Jets try to get younger on the line. But remember, it’s still just early June, and a lot of things can change, with injuries, etc. “Obviously, who doesn’t want to play?” Dozier said. “But I’m going to fit whatever role they tell me to fit into. I’m going to pressure them as much as I can, by playing as well as I can, to be on the field some.” What has been the toughest part of the tackle-to-guard adjustment so far for Dozier? “Just trying to get away from some of the tackle tendencies I had,” he said. “I used a little one-armed stuff (when blocking) out at tackle. Now I’m trying to focus mainly on the two-hand punch. That’s really been the biggest hurdle for me so far. But each day I’m improving.” Dozier said he enjoys playing guard, because of the position’s physical nature. “I liked (to face) the bull rush when I got it (while playing tackle),” he said. “The contact is quicker (at guard). It’s being nasty, and I think that’s what all linemen should be.”
I thought Slauson was well received last year by the Bears. He earned incentives under his contract. They signed him to a new contract with significant guaranteed money (just under $5mil). http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...140106_1_matt-slauson-salary-cap-roster-bonus The only reason I saw for why he was let go was they kept Ducasse instead, and drafted a player who ended up being the worst starter on the team with the third pick. I don't call those good reasons.
Slauson was an upgradeable player. Sturdy but not great at pulling, 2nd level or pass pro.I'm glad the Jets moved on. What bothers me is this team's inability to figure out the guard spots long term. Ducasse was a failure.Who knows..maybe Winters isn't far behind.
I agree with this. The guard position is weak now, but Slauson wasn't anything special. It was the right move to let him walk in FA, just discouraging they can't find anyone to replace him. I think losing Austin Howard is going to hurt this year. He really improved and played well last year. I guess I don't know much about the Breno Giacommi guy, but we could be in the market for a RT in next year's first round.
I agree 100% on Howard. There is cause for concern. Breno isn't very good. People will say he was "good enough to start for the Super Bowl winner," therefore he's a good player. But I went back and watched some of his game tape since we got him. The guy plays hard and plays to the whistle. But he's just not very good in any particular area. He whiffs on run blocks, and isn't very athletic or good with his feet. For a guy his size, he has pretty narrow shoulders. He gets called for a lot of penalties, too, which is something Austin Howard has been able to avoid. Howard is also healthy, having started all 16 games last year. Giaco is older and coming off an injury sustained / dealt with during the season.
In retrospect it doesn't seem good. I think cap issues contributed to the decision although they probably could've been worked around.
