To begin with, the draft isn't just about improving the team in 2014 and/or 2015. Idizk is taking the long term view. He wants a strong, competitive team every year. Think about what it would be like if the Jets passed on Lewan or Richardson and then Brick or Giacommini goes down with a season-ending injury (perish the thought). Also, as we have seen rookie OL struggle. The better teams don't wait until a need is critical or until a player retires or is cut to replace him. They get his replacement in a year or two before and groom that replacement and start getting him experience so that when he does become the starter he's able to play at a high level. You simply cannot pass up on bpa to address a short term need. That's a recipe for disaster.
Hi everyone, I'm from England so perhaps I'm not fully aware of all the nuances (even if I have followed the Jets since the mid-1980's). However, I've never really understand why you would draft the BPA - surely you draft for need based on the top two drafts making the team and making an immediate difference? Personally I'd go CB, WR, OLB, WR again.
Basically it comes down to depth at each position not being equal and the overall chances (or lack thereof) of someone becoming successful in the NFL. There are no guarantees of anyone becoming a star (see: Tebow, et al). Using your scenario, if the Jets are able to get the CB they want in round one but the next time they're on the clock the best WR still around grades to a C+, but the best OLB is a B+, you grab the linebacker because he has a better chance to stick and help the team. That's an oversimplification, of course, but that's why you go BPA. The reasons that you don't, however is if the only B+ on the board when you're up is in a position where you're fat and there are still plenty of B players available that match your needs. BPA is never a black and white designation except to a handful of message board pundits.
That assumes there is somebody at a position of need good enough to make an immediate difference. Most GMs grade every player. For simplicity let's say there's a group of 10 players per grade (A+, A, A-, B+...). Best player available means that if there are equivantly rated players, you take the one at the position of greatest need, but you never take a lower graded player. The best way to look at the draft is that you want to amass the most talent possible. Free agency is the primary tool for filling needs. Let's take take the OT example. If the best player available is a LT, we should take him, even though we have Ferguson. If he can equal what Ferguson gives you at that high value position for a fraction of the price, you can eventually dump/trade Ferguson freeing up cap space to plug other the holes. You should never draft a B or C player over an A player, just because that B player is at a position of need.
To me the NFL and for the most part all sports are about collecting talent. If i'm a GM I don't want a CB who I have 8th on my board when there are 7 guys ahead of him (who are available) who I think are better players. JMO
In a normal year, the draft would be happening next week, April 24th. This deal with Radio City and having to wait an additional 2 weeks is brutal.
Who is Richardson...you mean Greg Robinson? Yeah, if Greg Robinson's there @18, you take him. I am concerned about Giaco and O-Line depth in general, too, but I am more concerned about the starting guard spots. Zack Martin seems to be rising up draft boards. I'm wondering if there is any scenario in which he'd be a consideration @ 18. We all watched Brian Winters give up way too many sacks and commit too many drive-killing holding penalties.
No, I mean Tiny Richardson. PLEASE READ THE EARLIER POSTS IN THE THREAD REFERRING TO ANTONIO "TINY" RICHARDSON IN THE 2ND ROUND.
You want him @ 18? He is projected as a 3rd or 4th rounder. You yourself grouped him with Lewan in your comments.
No. Antonio "Tiny" Richardson was mentioned by TNJet as being an excellent pick in the 2nd round and several others mentioned him right before the post I responded to. I was following that train of thought when I responded to the post I did. So, in other words, if the Jets were to not take Lewan at #18 or Richardson at #49 (or in the 3rd round or whenever) and Brick or Giacommini were seriously injured. Clearer?
Ben Ijalana was a 2nd round pick for the Colts, obviously he didn't pan out for them but he would be able to step into a game. Oday Aboushi is a run blocking RT, much like Giacomini, and although he is only in his second year and was a 5th round pick, you put him at RT. Injuries happen to every team and generally speaking you're not going to have a first or second round pick waiting in the wings to step in for injury. It's not that I'm staunchly against picking one of those players, but your reason for taking one (potential for injury) just isn't a very strong one. Not to mention neither of our starting tackles have major injury history, in fact Brick has never missed a game for us.
I think that the Jets would be wise to spend a pick or two on the Oline, but keep in mind that Idzik did spend a few picks on the oline last year. (Aboushi, Winters, and Campbell) It wouldn't shock me at all if they spent two picks on the Oline or zero picks on the oline. Idzik is going to take BPA and if it is an Olineman, he will do it. Holla at your boy. It has been a long time since I have posted. 10 year member.
Sup homey. I'm going to err on the side of 3 OL (2 guards) and also a couple of TEs one being a straight up blocker. The pass protection needs more help than the much hyped secondary. Not that all of them will make the team, but with 12 picks you have the rim to audition drafted players and waive a few if they aren't up to snuff.
As I see it we have one or two positions of major strength. the DL and the RB, and a number of positions of need, some immediate and many required for depth and continuity. So going forward into the 2014 draft it should be pretty apparent that BPA will be the name of the game. IMHO we have immediate needs at WR, TE, S, serious need to strengthen the OLB and CB, and help for depth or competition at OG , OT and P. So the strategy to go BPA on each round when you have that many holes is pretty straight forward. The variable as always is three fold: A) The talent scouts have thoroughly done their homework and we don't over reach or miss a high value pick all together, particularly in the early rounds B) We do not, ever, never again draft a prospect on a position of immediate need C) The more pressing needs you have, the more you must keep every single one of your picks, never trade up, but where it makes sense trade down for more picks
Quick question on BPA: does BPA mean you take the 'best WR available'? or 'the best TE available'? or does it mean you take the guy who's head and shoulders better than anyone else at his position, regardless of what that position might be? The Richardson signing would suggest the later. Lets say a Cooks is 2.4 times better than any WR left on the board, but a D-Lineman is 2.5 times better than any other D-Lineman. When does 'need' force it's way into the conversation?
