Lol, yeah, blame Cutler for how horrendous the Bears D was this season. I like Geno Smith and his potential, but Cutler would have been a huge upgrade at QB for the Jets (as I'm sure Rex would agree). Although, that contract Cutler got is eh.
You're acting as if it was the same defense as Grossman's and the same scenarios. Three years had passed from the Grossman SB to Cutler's first year. You yourself have shot down Grossman on this very board before because the Bears won a bad division and had an easy schedule. I'm not making excuses, not many non-elite quarterbacks make the playoffs with defenses ranked in the 30s. I think Eli may have done it one year with a 9-7 record, and that's a major tip of the cap to him, but it's rare.
rankings tell part of the story, the Eli led 2011 Giants won a weak division and their D led them to that SB. the teams were different but not that much different. The bottom line is Cutler is not good, he's a stat guy that fools people. He has amazing talent but cannot put it together. If he does watch out but it's been almost 10 years and he is still the same guy. he will tease w/ his ability. People think he played well against Cle a few weeks ago b/c he had a 100+ rating but he was terrible. some horrendous INts and threw a hail mary that his WR made an incredible TD grab on. The next week he was awful at Philly last week Forte tried to carry them to the div title and the D turned over Rodgers multiple times including in the EZ to prevent a TD and still he couldn't get it done. You are not winning anything w/ Cutler.
Yes, Cutler would have been a vast upgrade over the Jets Qb's since Favre, but he's signed in Chicago, so there goes that option.
yeah, we could have overpaid for some meaningless stats and won less than we have post Favre! so close:rofl2:
These QB contracts are getting more and more ridiculous. It used to be that elite/SB winning QBs got these monster contracts. Now it is trickling down to the likes of Stafford/Cutler/Ryan. Pretty soon teams are going to realize this needs to be scaled back as the money given to QBs cripples their SB chances. Hell even Brady/A-rod/Brees/Mannings are having trouble winning SBs with little resources to go around after their big deals. Look at the Ravens this year. Didn't even get in the playoffs a year after winning it all.
If I was the Bears I would have given him the franchise tag and paid him more but at least it would be a year to year thing. 7 years is a long time, very long time.
How does Cutler get 126M... The guy has won what, 1 playoff game in his career? He's always hurt as well... Cutler got away with grand larceny.
The TD to put the team up by 20 usually means that in most scenarios that QB played well. Wouldn't you rather be up by 20 instead of having to score late to win?
sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. he puts up mostly meaningless #s and he's clearly not winning many games by 20 having only been to postseason ONCE his entire career w/ teams expected to make it nearly every year.
Matt Ryan is better then both Joe Flacco and Eli Manning. If I had to rank Eli and Flacco along with those guys mentioned at the top of your post it would probably go Ryan Manning Stafford Cutler Flacco I think to much credit is given to QB's who win the Super Bowl. Winning the Super Bowl is the most important thing but to much credit is given to one specific player. Mainly the QB. Flacco and Eli (mainly Flacco) had great runs, that doesn't make them great players. Ryan, Stafford, and Cutler are consistently better then Flacco. Nowadays it seems like if you win a Super Bowl or a couple playoff games your automatically considered great. Flacco had no buisiness getting the contract he did. Football is the ultimate team game but, it seems like everyone is so quick to give all the credit to the QB's.
And you place all that blame soly on Jay Cutler? It's nobody else's fault but his? All his numbers are meaningless? I mean did he not leave the field against Green Bay with the lead? Only to watch his defense completely choke????
not all his fault obviously and he left the field w/ a lead late b/c of Matt Forte. If Jay would have played better they would have won. He didn't make plays to win. His D choked and gets their share of the blame w/o a doubt but if they D doesn't pick off Rodgers twice the game isn't close.
Does it matter how he leaves the field? He left the field with the lead. He threw 2 other TD's in that game. They were meaningless? If he doesn't throw those 2 TD's the game isnt even close and his D's 2 picks mean a lot less.
Will they realize? The importance of a passing game in a passing friendly league is becoming more and more. I think you brought this point up before, and it's a really interesting point. I'll try seeing if there's a list of how teams do after their QB and a "big"contract.
I think they are going to have to. Having a big number of your cap committed to one position, though it is by far the most important, gets you to the playoffs, thus giving you a shot. But I feel like teams with QBs on the cheap and/or on rookie deals are able to both get quality QB play and have more complete teams. Teams like the 49ers/Seahawks/Eagles/Colts/Bengals have a good window to get that quality QB play while fielding monstrous supporting casts. As long as the drafting is good. That's a good idea. I'd like to see it
Forte carried them all game, Cutler did very little in the game. He's overrated b/c people look at his stats which are usually decent(but not very good). The backup had that team in perfect playoff position and Jay couldn't seal the deal.
Couldn't find anything. It's really hard to look up older contract extensions, wikipedia doesn't have much for most QBs. We'll have to watch and see. There's the idea old QBs can't win SBs but it might be old,expensive QBs don't help win SBs.
