Really like Van Noy too, he's so versatile and a natural pass rusher too. I could see trading back for him, then using the extra pick and our 2nd rounder to grab Jordan Matthews early in the 2nd. Then maybe take the TB 3rd and our 3rd to get ASJ or one of the other TEs if there, (maybe grabbing the TE or Matthews 1st depending on how the draft stocks change.) I think that would be a pretty amazing haul and it would only end up costing an extra 3rd round pick to get it done. No middle ground on targeting an OLB though. Either grab one of the premiere ones in the 1st if it makes sense or don't look for one until late in the 3rd at the earliest but probably after. Barnes is already a good stop gap so you either swing for the fences or invest where there isn't a viable veteran.
Evans' athleticism is definitely underrated. He may not be the fastest guy on the clock but he more than makes up for it with great ball skills and just a great feel for the position. I'd have no problem with him as our #1 WR.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...marqise-lee-will-be-best-wr-in-2014-nfl-draft http://www.dailynews.com/sports/201...marqise-lee-actions-speak-louder-than-numbers http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles...etball-helped-marqise-lee-hone-leaping-skills [/QUOTE]A note on Lee's jumping ability: With his 5-foot-11 frame and generously assuming his standing reach is about 8 feet, 4 inches, he'd have to have at least a 38-inch vertical to be able to dunk on an 11-foot rim. The rule of thumb with dunking is that you have to be able to jump about eight inches higher than the rim to dunk.[/QUOTE] http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/c-track/mtt/lee_marqise00.html http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...mmy-watkins-marqise-lee-lead-top-wr-prospects http://standingosports.com/main/2013/10/26/scouting-report-usc-wr-marqise-lee/ http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ee-not-bitter-about-season-nfl-threeyear-rule
A note on Lee's jumping ability: With his 5-foot-11 frame and generously assuming his standing reach is about 8 feet, 4 inches, he'd have to have at least a 38-inch vertical to be able to dunk on an 11-foot rim. The rule of thumb with dunking is that you have to be able to jump about eight inches higher than the rim to dunk.[/QUOTE] http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/c-track/mtt/lee_marqise00.html http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...mmy-watkins-marqise-lee-lead-top-wr-prospects http://standingosports.com/main/2013/10/26/scouting-report-usc-wr-marqise-lee/ http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ee-not-bitter-about-season-nfl-threeyear-rule[/QUOTE] Not impressed I can find just as many articles saying the opposite use your eyes anyone that thinks Lee is tough is crazy bottom line Ebron, ASJ, Amaro, Adams, Benjamin, and Matthews will be better pro's.
You really aren't grasping the fact that I'm talking about separation speed, do you? There's a lot of question marks with Evans, especially how his game will translate to the NFL. It's tough to gauge the big physical receivers at the college level, because the speed is so much different than at the NFL level. Look at Stephen Hill. People don't question athletic ability of receivers as much when looking at prospects if they put up good numbers and have big frames like Evans. He's not very fluent and doesn't cut on a dime very well. Receivers at the pro level are incredibly fluent and quick in and out of their breaks. That's how separation is created. On top of the fact it's tough to really assess his skills in terms of route running and such when a lot of big plays created in the A&M offense are scramble plays where receivers find open space. And stop telling everyone they don't watch games or watch a particular team. There's a reason this is a discussion forum, not a place where everyone needs to listen to your opinion and then you subsequently tell them they don't watch anything if you disagree.
Saying Evans is not a verticle threat does kinda seem like you don't watch A&M. It was the exact same thought I had when I read that. Just because it's free discussion does not mean your free from ridicule when you say something silly.
There's really no reason to personally ridicule someone for their stated opinion. I don't think Mike Evans is going to rip the top off defenses in the NFL. Sue me? I watched a bit of A&M. He's made a bunch of plays down the field in college, sure. I don't think he's going to be routinely beating NFL defensive backs in the pros.
At this point all three of them could be the first receiving options taken. I personally think Evans gets taken first, then Watkins, followed by Lee. Watkins and Lee could be moved around, remember Watkins has been arrested a couple of times recently and suspended two games. Evans has the body of Jimmy Graham...Some team will fall head over heels for him...Probably the Ravens
If we can get Eric Ebron in the first and Jordan Matthews in the second that would be my dream draft. Id rather have Ebron than Lee or Evans
Might have to trade up if we want one of these receivers... Package one of our third rounders with our first and move up and get our guy. There are a lot of teams needing receiver ahead of us, and if we sit tight at 17 or 18 we are going to miss out.
Not sure what makes you guys think Lee doesn't have elite speed. He's considered a better athlete than Robert Woods, who ran a 4.42 40 yard dash. I'd be shocked if Lee didn't run 1 4.40 flat or less. Watkins has special speed that doesn't come around very often, but there are few DB's in the league that could match Lee in a footrace.
http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/c-track/mtt/lee_marqise00.html http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...mmy-watkins-marqise-lee-lead-top-wr-prospects http://standingosports.com/main/2013/10/26/scouting-report-usc-wr-marqise-lee/ http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ee-not-bitter-about-season-nfl-threeyear-rule[/QUOTE] Not impressed I can find just as many articles saying the opposite use your eyes anyone that thinks Lee is tough is crazy bottom line Ebron, ASJ, Amaro, Adams, Benjamin, and Matthews will be better pro's.[/QUOTE] Opposite of what? That he did not outproduced Woods by 42 receptions and 875 yards while on the same team? That he was not recognized as the team's most courageous player at one time because of his display of toughness? That he can not dunk on a 11 foot rim? That he's not an accomplished long jumper? That he is not a willing blocker? Those are, what we call in the business, facts. They don't have opposites.
We need to be loose and flexible in the draft. If we fixate on pass catchers, we lose out on the next great player at OLB, S, OL, QB, or RB. Fill our biggest holes in free agency so we can take what the draft gives us.
But if you fill holes first with free agents rather than draftees you already know what they can do against NFL level competition. And you get a better chance to develop your draft picks. And you won't get dissed for not watching enough NCAA football.
