Roster: the nonsense excuse for Rex

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  1. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    The fact is the team has gotten progressively worse each year under Ryan. And as head coach he does (or should) have some responsibility for who is on the roster. How you can say that a guy that has overseen a team that has regressed each of the five years he has been here is doing a good job is beyond me.
     
  2. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    No one and that's the point that people like you and I are trying to make.

    Idc if he's in his first season or fifth season. When you give a head coach the talent we have had at the QB position, you are asking for failure. But what did he do? He coached a team ran by a below average QB to back to back AFC Championship games. Yeah, our team is declining, but so was the roster. Now, when things are looking tons better with money to play with, an impressive defensive front, and a plethora of picks, you are just gonna fire him and start over again? When almost, if not all, players in the locker room want their head coach back, it tells you something about the quality of the man on the sideline.

    You people wanting him fired are severely mistaken and are gonna be wishing you never wanted that. Hell, it takes a lot for guys like Cimini and Mehta to sit there and say Rex needs to stay and we need more talent. You have to be dumb to not realize that. At least dumber than those idiots, which is quite a feet in itself.

    Get it! "feet"? Lmao

    Hope Rex is here to stay! :)
     
  3. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    That is such a ridiculous circular argument. Our QBs suck BECAUSE of Rex and the way he forces the offense to play. Not saying Sanchez or Geno would be Top 10 without Rex, but Rex's influence on the offense insures us of having the worst QB in the NFL. History has shown it. There is a reason our offense looks exactly the same for 5 years with 3 DCs and 2 starting QBs. And the answer is Rex and the way he forces the offense to play. For F*&^s sake, he ADMITTED it last week.

    REX IS THE PROBLEM. He needs to get fired two weeks from today.
     
  4. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Ok.

    Sounds good to me.
     
  5. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    do you think it might have something to do with the fact that the previous brain trust landed the team with a huge QB contract for a QB that never performed to that level and a ton of high priced (aging) free agents that didn't play close to their salaries on back loaded contracts that had to be paid at some point and that left the team with no cap and no ability to do much of anything in free agency?
     
  6. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    you don't think that maybe rex is just trying to take some of the pressure of the under performing offense by taking some of the heat from them as he has done many times in the past?
     
  7. RexJets80

    RexJets80 New Member

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    We have a QB problem, Not a coaching problem.. We cannot build by constantly changing systems and coaches. And knowing the luck of the jets he would get hired by the pats as d coordinator and that is a future I cannot deal with as a fan of this team. Stay with rex..
     
  8. LeonNYJ

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    With a different coach this team would be 2-12 right now (which probably wouldn't be such a bad thing).
     
  9. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Ker-fuckin-ching!$$$!!!$$$

    Jonny, you can focus on all the bad shite if you want to mate, but you just sound very frustrated like many here. Understandable.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It's pathetic how so many of you are so motivated by fear. If Rex is fired...yada, yada, yada. Please. You guys act like he's the second coming of Vince Lombardi or something.

    The guy is a clueless doofus. The Pats don't need Rex to kick the Jets' butts on a regular basis. The irony is that with the exception of a few games, they are probably elated that he is the coach of the Jets and hope that he remains the HC of the Jets for a long time, because they know they'll never have to seriously worry about the Jets as long as Rex is HC.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Teams need to be built with consistency. Look at the lackluster franchises of the Bills, the Rams after Martz, the Bengals before Marvin Lewis, the Browns, the Lions for nearly their entirety, the Jaguars, the Raiders. What do they all share in common? They switch coaches and systems every damn year!

    Let Rex try to build his team as he has been doing rather than throw him to the wolves because he wasn't given a bunch of proven expensive free agents like the roster he inherited when he first got here. He was given Mangini's roster with Tannenbaum throwing around money and backloading contracts out the wazoo to try to build an immediate contender. Now Rex & Idzik are given the draft to built their team and a boatload of cap room. Build depth through the draft, add a couple affordable veteran free agents and this team isn't that far away from contending. On top of the fact we have probably the best front 3, 4, in football and a ton of young players rotating in. The only criticism of the defense in terms of Rex's coaching is the fact that he took snaps away from Antonio Allen for Ed Reed...Tough to blame him that much though, when your defense is struggling to force turnovers, why not try out a turnover forcing machine.

    Let the offseason play its course. We're 6-8 not 4-10, and until this past weeks loss, we were very much alive in the playoff hunt and a miracle gets us in. If we went out and lost a ton of games I could see calling for the coaching staffs head. But Rex deserves a shot to build this roster through the draft, something he wasn't given in 2009, and 2010. Say what you want about his drafting, but this roster yielded 4/7 hits in the 2011 draft (Wilk, Kerley, Powell, Ellis), 3 quality starters from 2012 (Coples, Davis, Allen, despite only 3 picks in the first 5 rounds), and say what you want about 2013 but 5 starters from that particular draft, two which seem as though they could be here for a long time (Bohanon, Richardson).
     
  12. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Has every opinion you've ever has been on the money...I smell BS :wink:
     
  13. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    Says the clueless doofus
     
  14. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Elated? Rex has a 4-7 record against New England and Brady whom is a top 5 quarterback all time, and has beaten them with horrible quarterback play. That throws a lot of the success on the defense's ability to beat up Brady. I don't think Belichick is happy to have a defensive mind in the division that routinely can give his golden child fits.
     
  15. TNJet

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    Best post ever. This is so true.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    this sounds nice but isn't true.

    They got better from 2009 to 2010 and got better from 2012 to 2013.
     
  17. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    My god, he has been here for FIVE friggin years and on a steady downhill spiral with collapses in 2 of the last three seasons and looking like a third. He is a very bad head coach that does not deserve more time, he has shown that he does not learn or adapt to his roster or changes in the NFL. You seriously want to keep a head coach that has led us to three late season collapses in a row. Wow.

    And by the way does anyone ever think our draft picks dont "hit" because Rex actually sucks at coaching up players? But let's contnue to make excuses for the loser and keep him around. WTF
     
  18. gustoonarmy

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    Careful what you wish for darksider, this time next year we'll be in the playoffs and all these comments are going to be quoted en masse
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we had ONE collapse in 2011, this year was not a collapse. t was a miracle we were even in the race.
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    He hasn't been given any offensive talent in his tenure after the AFC Championship games. Blame it on Tannenbaum or blame it on Rex? The cap caught up to the accountant whom had to get rid of Sanchez' top three receivers going into 2011! Do you realize we have one of the worst passing attacks in recent history, yet remained in the playoff hunt until week 15, and possibly 16 if Baltimore loses tonight?

    How doesn't he adapt to his roster? He has no quarterback play, so the guy coaches up a good defense and running game. What do you want him to do? Throw the ball 45 times like New England? What adaptation do you propose?

    Throw some information at me rather than claim a bunch of collapses, when we were expecting a 4-12, 5-11 record this year, or at least that's the talent that the roster indicates.
     

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