763 points scored, most ever

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  1. gsulli5861

    gsulli5861 New Member

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    Most points ever scored on a Sunday in the NFL. The reason I think this is important is because it speaks to the Jets flawed "way of doing business". Rex believes you win games by running and playing defense. You WIN by scoring points from the passing game. You WIN with guys who can make "chunk" plays. You WIN by getting ahead in the game and make teams one dimensional and then beating the hell out of the QB. You know the way the Jets QB gets the hell beat out of him. I'm not for firing Rex but lets focus on playmakers this off season and then go get some more playmakers
     
  2. LongIslandBlitz

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    Dude Geno isnt Tom Brady,Id love to see the epic disaster wben Geno throws 50 passes a game.So yea basically its better to run the ball .Coaches get to much blame,Players should be motivated enough by the millions they make a season.Its amazing how clueless most fans are it really is
     
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    I guess I wasn't clear enough. Not suggesting Geno is Brady or throwing 50 times a game. The Jets need a plan where they acquire playmakers. Rex's philosophy of running and defense is antiquated. Playmakers and more playmakers.
     
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    The seahawks are one of the best teams in the league this year and they win on strong defense and running so do the 49ers and ravens
     
  5. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    The Ravens suck at running this year, but otherwise your post was good.
     
  6. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    That falls on Mr.T not Rex,Idzik had no cap space this year hes still cleaning up the mess Mr.T made.Im sure we are gonna see some playmakers brought in this offseason with the cap room we will have.
     
  7. alleycat9

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    defense still wins games, especially in the playoffs. however to completely disregard the offensive side of the ball is suicide and that is what rex has done for the past 4 years. COMPLETELY disregarded the offensive side of the ball. even on the lines and when brick and mangold decide to get old all in the same year its going to be a catastrophe.

    i am all about defense being strong but you have to have an offense too and this guy has thrown all of his resources into "HIS" defense.
     
  8. Biggs

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    I think it speaks to the rules and the technology that has been incorporated in NFL fields and stadiums over the years. Playing conditions are much better and the rules have made it easier for the passing game. That doesn't mean good defense isn't a part of a great team. It just means scoring and yards is likely to go up.
     
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    Gotta have balance. This is what happens when one side of the ball is completely ignored with high draft picks. Other than Sanchez not one single 1st or 2nd round draft picks were used on offense. And the 2 second round picks that were drafted on offense were admitted 'projects' at the time and up to this point one is complete bust and if things don't turn around for the other one this offseason, he'll be a bust as well.

    The Jets should've never rolled the dice on 2 'projects' with their second round picks. And if we're assigning blame to this very flawed roster, why is Bradway getting no heat? He's still on the payroll in the scouting dept. This idiot should've been canned the moment he gave up 2 number 1's for D. Robertson...
     
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    Well, you need defense look at the Cowboys.


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    Exactly. As simple minded as this is, with all the points scored yesterday 16 teams still lost games. Somewhere along the way, the losing teams failed to play sound defense. And on closer inspection, the teams with good defenses tended to win - Carolina, Seattle, San Francisco, Miami, St Louis...
     
  12. kaboom

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    Your point in this context does not hold water.

    The Seahawks are one of the most prolific scoring teams in the NFL this year. They can and do score quickly and at the end of games as well. They have an MVP caliber QB.
     
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    The Giants had zero. Lmao

    And the Jets had the same amount as NE and the Golden Douche. It's not as simple as the OP makes it. You need balance.
     
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    Rex already acknowledged the importance of a passing game, hence why he brought in MM before the season. And defense IS important, regardless of how much people downplay it because allowing less points is precisely what helps you win games. It's a scoring league, which is why defense is more important than its ever been, and having good pass rush and good corners is crucial. There's a reason Seattle is the #1 team. They have a great defense, great rushing game, but their passing game is ranked just 24th. You really think Seattle even smells the playoffs if you swap their defense with say Minnesota or Jacksonville? It's all about balance, you can't just focus on one side of the ball or the other.

    I agree, the Jets have to draft mostly offensive playmakers this year, plus a safety, and add whatever else they need in free agency (top notch WR or TE). Don't forget we have like 12 draft picks this year plus a good amount of cap room. We've been in cap hell for way too long. I'm looking forward to this off season, and firmly believe it will define our team for years to come.
     
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    Drafted Sanchez by trading up, large extension didn't happen.
    Drafted Greene by trading up, didn't happen.
    Drafted Hill by trading up, didn't happen.
    Traded for Braylon, two year rental.
    Traded for Holmes, one good year from him, then injury prone, large extension given.
    Signed LT, one and half year rental.
    Drafted Geno, still looks like a lost rookie.

    What happens if you just miss on playmakers?
     
  16. Let's face it..the Jets have never built a modernized pass first NFL offense.

    If you wanna go against the grain & run the ball..then fine..but you better have playmaking backs & a darn good O-line. They let the O-line get away in 2010 when Damien Woody retired & replaced him w/ WFH.
     
  17. Don't forget Thomas Jones..Tannenbaum traded for him too.

    They avoided drafting skill in favor of established vets almost every chance they got.
     
  18. JetsUK

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    this forum is getting more and more like groundhog day every day
     
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    I don't agree that it's been completely disregarded. I just think we've been unlucky with some picks, namely QBs, and had some disappointing injuries. We've been searching for that QB to carry us to the future, but still haven't found him. If you break down the recent Jets draft history since Rex arrived for rounds 1-3, here's what we have:

    Defense: 7 (Wilkerson, Coples, Ellis, Richardson, Milliner, Davis, Wilson)
    Offense: 6 (Sanchez, Greene, Ducasse, Stephen Hill, Geno Smith, Winters)

    See, it wasn't really THAT lopsided. It's just that the offensive picks haven't really panned out while the defensive ones have been great for the most part. In 2009, we thought we were drafting our QB & RB combo for years to come, but they both underachieved and set us back.

    Lets now look at the big signings and see who's been making the most money over the past few years.

    Mark Sanchez - under performed based on contract
    Darelle Revis - earned it, was a stud.
    Santonio Holmes - under performed, a good amount due to injury and poor play from Sanchez
    David Harris - overpaid but still solid
    D'Brickashaw Ferguson - pretty solid
    Nick Mangold - solid but declining, still top 5
    Bart Scott - had a couple good years but was over paid
    Calvin Pace - didn't achieve until we loaded the line, but also over paid

    I look at this and I see a lot of Tanny mistakes, most notably the Sanchez extension with guaranteed money. But the big contracts are about even with defense and offense. It's so sad that Sanchez made so much money out of the whole deal for bottom of the league play.

    They tried to bring in offensive playmakers this off season but were limited base on cap space. They did sign Winslow, Goodson & Barnes, but they were all lost to injuries / suspensions. Holmes still doesn't seem 100%. The WRs and TEs have been injured on and off all year. Poor MM hasn't had the full squad for a single game this season.

    I'm looking forward to this coming off season. I have a feeling the offensive team depth issue will finally be solved, and we'll do it 2009 style and pick all offense or close to it. The big difference, of course, is that we have 12 picks instead of 3 like in 2009. Tanny traded away too many of them and it hurt the depth.

    The Jets absolutely cannot make the mistake of firing Rex Ryan or Marty Mornhinweg as an over reaction to this season. Did we really expect to tear it up with a 2nd round rookie who was thrown to the fire? The Jets actually over achieved this year, based on the talent IMO.
     
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  20. displacedfan

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    Good call on that one. I mean it worked for a bit, but then it came crumbling down once you don't find the youth to balance out the veterans. Hopefully the Jets have learned their lesson.
     

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