Of course I'd want Rex gone but I never got the feeling that they were quitting on Rex. In fact the offense played better in the 2nd half.
We view things differently and that's what being a fan is all about. I saw a defense that came out playing hard. Once the minutes on the field started to pile up, the defense knew from experience that no matter what they did, the result was going to be the same. There is a gulf between the two units on the team whether its admitted or not. You could tell by the tackling that not only was the defense gassed, but they were pissed, frustrated and by the 2nd half, they had already checked out. They knew the offense wasn't going to do shit no matter what the defense did. Ed Reed (Rex's latest experiment), hasn't done any mentoring that's produced tangible results. The offense appears mentally beaten even before the ball is snapped. It appears they've lost confidence in themselves as they realize that indeed, they have no talent. They can say whatever is politically correct but you can bet privately, more than one Jet was happy to see Geno sit down. Yeah, they played better in the second half because of the change at Qb, not because of Rex channeling his inner Knute Rockne. Even with that burst of energy, they managed 3 pts because on whole, they're a talentless group of jags thrust into the role of major players. The defense quit yesterday and the offense never really showed up. That's on Rex. To quote Michael Ray Richardson: "This ship be sinking.."
Even good coaches have bad seasons. Look at Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan. They have better players than the Jets and they're doing worse. Unless you're lucky enough to have a Tom Brady on the bench, when your starting QB goes down you're in for a long miserable season in the NFL. There are just not enough quality QB's in the league.
You people are idiots plain and simple - a lame ass rookie QB is to blame - Rex is just a victim of what he has available to him to use... Gimme a freakin break ----what AN ANAL thread this is..
I totally agree. No coach could win with Geno Smith. Rex should get credit for winning any games at all.
I agree with CMAN completely, they didn't show up on offense and they did mail it in on defense yesterday. the O-line in particular looked like they didn't want to play. I understand that most of the JAGS at RB/WR/QB and all that just might not be any good at all, but the O-line has no excuses for being terrible other than desire. I also remember snapshots of the bench and Holmes is with Hill and both had a "oh well, what can you do?" look to them. You also got Winslow and his shugged "if they throw it to me- I'll catch it" act after the game that just screams quitting on the team... Defensively they fought hard in the first half, but they mailed it in too in the 2nd half. Hence the many weak missed tackles. In a way, you can't blame them. Because they would have to pick shutouts to win games but at the same time that's on the coaching staff.
This must be your first day on this site. We beat the Pats with Geno Smith. I guess Rex gets no credit for that? I always thought Geno sucked. It's crazy to expect a rookie to win. Sometimes they have good season but that's not the norm. And it's even crazier to blame the HC for losing with a rookie QB.
Now that's the dumbest thing anyone has ever posted. So it doesn't matter if the defense holds the opponent under 20 points and the QB throws a bunch of pics and fumbles the ball, it's all the TEAM's fault? You have to analyze what parts of the team are not functioning well. In this case the problem is we have rookie QB and rookie CB who is not playing well. Having a bad season doesn't mean you're bad coach. Coughlin is having a bad season this year and before he won the SB Giant fans were ready to run him out of town. Why don't we pretend we've been watching football for more than 5 years? There are ups and downs. Players love playing for Rex, that makes him a good coach in my book. He took us to 2 championship games. We beat the Pats in the playoffs when they looked unstoppable. Ryan is a good head coach. He's not perfect but he's a whole lot better than most NFL coaches out there.
You do realize of course that we are a nation of around 300 million people & I am sure within that gene pool Woody can easily find most likely a far smarter HC then RR :sad:
Rich Kotite Bruce Coslet Pete Carrol(oh wait, he's actually a good coach now so forget it) Joe Walton Al Groh
Carroll was always a good coach. He did a fantastic job with the 49er defense when he went there. He cares about players, he motivates players and he is an excellent defensive strategist. The coach is just not the whole team.
he did go to the playoffs twice w/ NE then went to USC where he made them a powerhouse. Pete definitely got a raw deal here but he was fortunate we fired him.
I have to be honest here...other than Jon Gruden I personally do not see anyone out there that is a MUCH better option than Rex Ryan. If you are not going to get MUCH better then it is not worth the change and all the upheaval and hassle surrounding a move. Unfortunately, Gruden is locked in his gig and apparently loves it! Who can blame him...much like Madden, he will be revered forever and will never have to deal with the insane issues that coaching entails nor will he have to tarnish the reputation that he now has. Besides that, from a football standpoint, Gruden was never known for his ability to develop young QB's and I really do not see a veteran out there that would be worth bringing in for any amount of money. Lovie Smith is a little less than/or equal to the Defensive Coordinator Ryan is and benefited from some VERY talented Bears Defenses across the board. He also had probably one of the greatest Special Teams players in the history of the game in Hester as well. We do not have that here. Say what you will...Grossman is NOT Smith/Simms. No one else on any of the lists is worth talking about. Let the guy in Stanford sit for about 6-8 years and we'll see how well he does. He's still "riding" on guys Harbaugh brought in...let's see how he does with his own recruiting classes and what type of job he can pull off over time. No need to pull a knee-jerk reaction on that front. I can't believe someone actually brought up Saban's name. LOL!!!! Him nor "The Ole' Ball Coach" have proven they can get it done at the NFL level. No, the NY Jets are talent depleted on the Offensive side of the ball. That is the bottom line. No two ways about it. HOW talent depleted is the question and where do you start? No matter if Simms does well or not there is no question that another QB is needed. Whether it be a retread or another young QB added to the mix is debatable. What I need to know is who do we keep around for next year...IS Simms more useful than Geno? Hopefully that question gets answered over the next couple games. Do we improve to the point that we stay out of the top 10 in the draft next year? The ONLY way we draft a QB is if we are top 10. Anything other than that and you draft BPA, offensively, all the way through the draft and target a couple select FA's. No, while I am in the camp that loves Rex Ryan, I still can look objectively and I really do not see a Night vs. Day upgrade at the HC position from what is available. Let's upgrade the offensive talent, pick up a couple secondary guys for the defense and then let's see what we have going into the 2014 season. Give Rex a couple a "groceries" on the offensive side of the ball and see where MM's offense can take us. Who knows...give Geno/Simms another shot? I don't know. We'll at least have a couple answers over the next handful of weeks.
I never said we should fire Rex just for the sake of it. If the team quits on him then he has to go. I called out your post because you said no coach can win with Geno. When Rex won with Geno until he regressed. There is obviously factors to a teams wins and losses that are out of the control of the offense and defense. So it can't be put solely on one side of the ball.
The same people who wanted Carroll fired are the ones who want Ryan fired--impatient short sighted fans. Look at the San Diego Chargers. They ran Marty Schottenheimer out of town because he kept losing the AFC championship game. Well, they don't have that problem anymore.
