I know the QB has played poorly the last 6 games but the decent defenses in the league absolutely have no fear of any Jet skill player. The fact is that other than Kerley it's highly unlikely that any WR or TE will be on the roster next year.
No this is more on smith and the coaching staff lose of faith in him. Baltimore played almost all game with 9 guys in the box. They kept running the ball. The would rather run the ball into a 9 man front than let geno try and throw it at this point. Its that comical
When I do my game summation I'm going to count that very thing!!! I was paying attention but got so frustrated as the game went on that I was no longer seeing green/white or purple...I was seeing RED. Every single time they dropped 8 or more in the box because we can't throw it was really beginning to piss me off. Follow up will come in the next couple days.
The JETS absolutely need, I mean "NEED", to come away from the draft and free agency with three to four LEGITIMATE offensive weapons. I'm talking two receivers, a tight end, and a running back that all can pose a threat to a defense. The offense as it is right now is just terrible if the running game is nonexistent from the start. It would be nice to go to the playoffs and possibly make some noise this year but these final five weeks, the offense, and potential tie-breakers with the Ravens and Steelers probably have sealed the JETS fate and Rex Ryan's fate as coach.
agreed. I also got sick of watching our receivers drop passes that his them in the numbers! The OL sucked big time for two weeks in a row.
FootballOutsiders has the Jets ranked 31st in Pass Protection and that was as of last week. Is some of that on Geno? Sure. But more of it is on pressure that comes from everywhere and particularly right up the middle. The Jets allow more interior pressure than any Jets line I've seen in a long time. I think it's worse than 2007 at this point.
I know their guards are nothing special (a reason why I wanted Warmack) but has Mangold been slipping this bad, or is it the lack of help next to him?
Brick started his slide about 2 years ago. It's been slow, but steady. This is the first year it's visible in Mangold as well.
The true ability of a QB is to get thevmost of of your weapons. The problem with SMith is he can't throw the passes that any other QB in the league can. Slant, Curl, Out, Drag, Post, Go, cross, screen....he has poor timing, poor delivery, poor footwork, and poor decision making. You put a QB in that can throws those routes and can go through his progression those shitty weapons aren't half bad. Hill - before he entered witness protection was doing wuite nicely developing in year 2, Cumberland and Winslow were catching some big passes, Holmes was making plays, kerley was kerley -- but Smith is so limited that the playbook is basically what can Josh Cribbs do?
Hill was fine against the Bills second string secondary with Santonio Holmes opposite him. Holmes got hurt. Winslow got suspended. Cumberland got hurt. Now Kerley is hurt. This isn't really a tough situation to figure out. When you have a rookie QB throwing to a half dozen guys who aren't going to be in the NFL in a season or two bad things happen. You think Santonio Holmes is in "making plays" mode or survival mode at this point? Kellen Winslow obviously pissed somebody on the Jets coaching staff off because he has been next to invisible since his suspension was announced, including the Sunday before when the Jets and he probably already knew what was going down. There just isn't any talent in the Jets receiving corps at this point other than the guy who is currently hurt in Kerley, the guy who has spent half the season inactive with physical ailments in Holmes and the vet TE the team has already given up on. There just isn't anybody else there.
The talent excuse on offense is getting old. The QB isn't even able to handle the basic NFL routes needed to be successful. I mean Holmes lives by the slant...he is great at the quick slant and run after the catch. He doesn't have 1 this season. Hill can be a deep threat -- since he was overthrown horribly in the Pitt game they haven't gone deep again. There is enough talent on the jets offense to put up more than 3 points in a game. Where there isn't enough talent is at QB. That lack of talent brings everything else down. Smith can't even move on to his second receiver. So if you are in the huddle and receiver X is primary and you are receiver Y you know you will never see the ball. That kind of play week in and week out brings everyone down.
I agree- we need more quick passing plays. Smith can complete them, they just aren't being called (as far as I can tell).
Let's assume for a second that Smith is never going to move on to his second receiver, and let's assume that we want second receiver Y to do something other than crack/collapse/mentally quit. Is there a way for the coaching staff to motivate players under these circumstances, or is it get out the liquor time? With other coaches, I'd presume that it'd be liquor time, but isn't Ryan supposed to be some master motivator? There used to be an article dissecting Bart Scott's postgame rant laying out an interesting case for that very position, but now I can't find it. The main thrust of it was that all the disrespect and so forth that had him fired up had in fact not come from the football media, but rather a single source. A source named Rex Ryan. I thought it was in the New York Times, but I haven't run across it yet. Anyone know the article?
The good news is next year the Jets will not play 8 games against AFC North and NFC South. Rather we get those 8 games against much weaker defenses in the NFC North and AFC West. Our OL is been manhandled almost every game. Today was the 7th game we have given the QB no time to throw. In the 4 games where he has had time to throw he has thrown the ball up and down the field. But when we have week after week of no time to throw and hit after hit it will take a toll. His confidence will suffer, he will hesitate and he will begin not to follow through on his throws. Smith has not been the problem but the team needs a spark and he cannot keep taking a beating week after week. The Saints game was arguably the worst pass protection I have ever seen a team play. The Bills game and today's game was pretty close to being as bad. We tried to protect Smith from our OL today but essentially that just put him in 3rd and long all day. I understand and agree that we do not need to hurt the teams confidence in Geno by pulling him but at some point when we cannot protect him it becomes useless. I just hope he has a short memory and can make strides during the offseason. 85's point about not throwing slants and between the hashmarks may have some validity. He has avoided throwing between the hashmarks all year. Part of that might be problems reading defenses and understanding coverages. It is much easier to recognize coverages on a deep ball or outside the hashmarks. Part of that might just be MM. MM deserves a lot of the blame here too. As he has failed to find a way to pick up blitzes and protect the QB all year. He loves to use sets with no checkdowns and lots of vertical routes that leave the QB few options and lots of hits. He has not been able to adapt the offense to the problems our OL has had. I really wonder if MM's quas hybrid i WC offense is the reason a lot of his QBs have had such a hard time remaining healthy.
