Can we NOW officially label DeWayne Robertson a "BUST"????

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by AllHackettsSuck, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. Actually, he has been playing the spot at brief points in both games, and has looked pretty good.

    I'm not sure how a guy who has started virtually game of his career including one team that made the playoffs can be characterized as a bust.

    The problem is, he didn't stand a chance in a media like NY after being that high of a pick. Now he's trying to adjust to a new scheme, including playing a spot out of position...c'mon.

    I'll say it again: Over the past 4 years(considering we played the 4-3 the majority of the time) would you have rather we had Shane Burton, Ernie Logan, Tom Barndt, Jason Wiltz or Maurice Anderson?
     
  2. hydro51

    hydro51 New Member

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    on just about every snap.
     
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    Sayin, he's been coached to penetrate the line his entire career and now all of a sudden they're trying to make him an anchor. Did the kid bone your wife or something? Everyone here agrees he was a poor decision. I don't think you need to keep shouting "bust" to get the point across.
     

  4. You do realize that the position they're asking him to play is not meant to make alot of plays or tackles,correct? I've have this same point w/ you for 4 fucking years.,..and you continually ignore it. Do you know how the DT position works? Do you know what a DT's job is?
     
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    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    No. He had as many assists as the Jets' PLACEKICKER today! That is a DISGRACE!
     
  6. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    I know that a DT should have more assists than a placekicker.
     
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    i understand the dt position is more than stats.. but he isnt doing his job his poor play was pointed out all game by the annoucier and this morning on edge nfl matchup. Robertson is getting abused by 1 blocker at the point of attck.. he doesnt command 2 blockers. im not gonna be bias cause im a jets fan he has played poor and its being noticed around the league now. teams are gonna expose him week in and week out
     
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    You can call Robertson a bust if you want, but if you're going to point to tackles as a reason, then you obviously don't understand the game at all.
     
  9. Go look across the NFL for the average interior DL's stat sheet. Most average between 2-4 tackles a game. D rob had 4 tackles last week....I'll say it again...when he's been placed at end he has penetrated well and slashed down the line(Which is his JOB)....at NT he has struggled due to the fact that he does not have long arms or a wide base.

    But yeah..you go ahead and label him a bust. You've been doing it for 4 years. Everytime someone tries to explain to you how the DT position works...you either dont respond or just whine about poor stat-lines.
     
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    he sint a bust, because he is on the field and contributed, in 4-3. but he absolutely sucks at NT
     
  11. I'm not deying that he has performed poorly at NT. He isn't meant for the position. He doesnt have a wide enough base or long enough arms to clog things up. He's useful for the spot on an occassional basis to spell Moore as a "change of pace" due to his penetrating ability and superior quickness.

    My point is, that when at DE he has gotten penetration and made some decent plays. And also, that I'm not sure how one can label a guy who has started virtually every game during his career at a position that has been a revolving door for this team...can be considered a bust. Is he the star we thought he'd be? No. But he certainly has had a place on this team over the past 4 years and hasvastly outperformed players of the past including Ernie Logan, Jason Wiltz, Shane Burton, Tom Barndt and James Reed.
     
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    He shows almost no presence when he is in. For a player of his size he needs to be a lot more forceful, not letting the o-line manhandle him. That other dt moore was alright today, he was getting good penetration.
     
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    Man, he wasn't good in the 4-3 either. The guy just sucks period. He just doesn't do what you want out of an upper echelon NFL d-lineman. I don't expect him to get tackles or even get penetration, I want him to take up space and blockers and I'd be happy. He doesn't seem to do that. I don't know what he does except get driven back by one blocker alone.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Robertson isn't the only one to fault. Von Oelhoffen did not play good either. The Pats constantly got blockers on both Barton and Vilma. They both struggled. Ellis is the only one who played well and wasn't in, because he was limping near the end of the second half, early 3rd.
     
  15. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    How many draft picks did Van Oelhoffen cost the New York Jets??
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    whether hes a bust or not, this is his last season as a jet.....I highly doubt the jets are gonna change their system around d-rob...he cant play NT...see ya later(you fat, weak pussy)
     
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    The commentator noticed it as did all the Jets fans I was with...Rashad Moore provided much more stability at NT. DRob is running out of chances to produce. Mangini saw Belichick move Ty Warren to DE and he has excelled. That may be DRob's last chance to show anything, if he can learn from Von Oelhoffen on how to be a 3-4 soon...

    It's not looking good though.
     
  18. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    How many CHANCES should a guy who cost so many picks have to get? He should be DOMINATING for what he cost this team!!!
     
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    He has to get more chances simply because he cannot be cut. And i'm not saying he should be. But financially, he has to be kept.

    He should be a prime-time player this point in his career. But like I said, his last resort would be at DE. He has to learn from Kimo since he knows all about being a 3-4 DE. But again, it is not looking good for DRob to produce...

    The clock is ticking...And with him getting pretty much benched for a guy who was cut prior to the season is not good at all.
     
  20. So it's either he's dominant or he's a bust in your eyes, right? Being solid up until this point isn't enough?

    I'm sick and tired of seeing people having ridiculous expectations like this, especially from a position like DT. People wonder why players routinely leave the Jets and go on to be great players in different settings. The expectations from jet fans is ridiculous..and it leads to great levels of animosity, which in turn makes management take premature action, or the player leaves on their own to get away from the pressure.James Farrior got the same deal as D rob is getting.

    So you all go ahead and forget about the great season D rob had in 2004...and the bums we had at DT before he arrived. And then when he leaves after this year and becomes a pro bowler somewhere like Indy...and all the NFL fans around the league laugh at our criticisms....i dont wanna hear a PEEP of bitching!
     

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