After watching some preseason, has your W-L prediction changed?

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  1. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Revis did nothing for our D last year. He played in 2 games and finished neither. Coples will be back by what week 2, 3 at the latest. So why even bring him up?
     
  2. edray10

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    I look at the schedule for this year and a I see a lot of mediocre teams. We're playing the NFC South (a pretty mediocre division after the falcons) + the AFC North + our division opponents + titans & raiders (3rd seeds in other AFC divisions). There are some good teams - the patriots (twice), the ravens, the falcons, maybe the bengals, but the rest are pretty much mediocre to bad and very beatable.
     
  3. ConcordeChops

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    OK, I'll rephrase that. We have used a first rounder on a rookie CB so we will have to endure his growing pains? Is that better?

    The fact remains we still look pretty fucking below-average.
     
  4. VirAurum

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    Our D last year was middle of the pack. We drafted 2 defensive players, but downgraded at S. Our LB's looked old and slow in the 2nd preseason game while getting chewed up by Blaine Gabbert and the running game.

    With a mediocre D (I severely doubt we'll be top 10) and a below average QB, below average passing targets, and middle of the pack O-Line it'll all come down to Ivory and the run game.

    If Ivory is a stud we could go 8-8. If Ivory falls flat we could go 3-13. Overall I'd predict 6-10.
     
  5. Joewillie78

    Joewillie78 Banned

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    Clearly you forgot that the JETS are very mediocre and very beatable and their isnt a team or its fans that when they see the JETS on their schedule are not penciling in a W, the way you are penciling in wins for these teams!
     
  6. dmw

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    7-9 to 9-7
     
  7. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    I'm still thinking six to eight wins is about right for this team.
     
  8. Jets Esq.

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    Our passing defense was #2 last year. But when your QB leads the league in turnovers, you put your defense in a lot of bad situations and that makes its stats much worse than they should be because you're giving your opponents lots of extra drives, often in or near the red zone where there's not much you can do to stop them from at least getting a field goal.

    The defense will be fearsome this year, especially if Coples is able to make it back early in the season. We still have a dominant D-line and one of the best CBs in Cro, and Rex's schemes.

    Our O-line was ranked #3 overall last year by Pro Football Focus, so I think it is a lot better than "middle of the pack" - only the Patriots and 49ers had better O-lines than us last year. This year the O-line looks even better. Shonn Greene averaged 3.9 yards a carry because of our line, despite getting almost no yards after contact and being the least elusive back in the league. A decent RB should get well over 4 yards per carry in the regular season behind this line, and we should have a decent RB.

    Our WRs look set to improve a lot this year. Hill finally looks ready, Gates looks like an NFL WR, Edwards is showing that he still has something left in the tank, and Winslow looks like he will be very effective at TE. Holmes might be back for Week 1. When you factor all that in with improved play from the RB position, the offense should improve considerably.

    QB is obviously a huge area of weakness and I can't deny that. But even if we start off the season with Sanchez, he should benefit from having WRs that can actually get open, a real OC calling plays in a logical fashion, and a RB that doesn't just run straight into guys and then immediately go down. Sanchez wouldn't be quite as bad as he was in 2012, with better performance by the receivers and no wildcat Tebow distractions.

    On the other hand, there is also an excellent likelihood that Geno Smith will show that he can take over. If he does, he should be able to have a QBR in the mid to high 70s with far fewer turnovers than Sanchez. Really, as long as Smith isn't a turnover machine, the defense would keep us in games even if the offense is a bit below average overall.

    Offensively, we should also be heartened by the fact that we've scored a bunch of offensive TDs in the preseason, whereas last year we only scored 1 offensive TD all preseason, in Game 4 where starters don't really play. The Jets have been better than expected this preseason, and they are poised to improve from last year.
     
  9. laxin

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    I know this is pretty random, but I havent seen it mentioned anywhere that Gronk is supposed to be out until at least week 3. That would be big if he doesnt play against us week 2. Taking one big piece of the puzzle out from NE is huge. Now we have to stop Ammendola and their run game.
     
  10. DanR

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    Amendola may night play either. I still got Pats winning no question.
     
  11. Jetfan76

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    Why would he not play,because he missed practice the past two days?
     
  12. Jets Esq.

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    It seems like he has a concussion, but Belichick never likes to say what injuries guys have. He will probably miss game 3 of the preseason and wouldn't play in game 4 anyway, so I doubt it will affect the regular season. I know Kolb took about 4 weeks to get over a concussion a year or two ago, but I don't think that that's typical. Usually you miss the rest of the game and maybe the next one, maybe. He'll be playing in Week 2 of the regular season, but given how injury prone he is it's possible that he'll be a bit banged up just 4 days after Week 1. There also won't be as much time to game plan against us, or us against them, so it'll be interesting to see if that ends up giving us some kind of edge.

    As long as Brady is healthy it's going to be an uphill battle to beat the Patriots, but we still have a shot at winning, and our chances certainly improve if Amendola isn't at 100%.
     
  13. gustoonarmy

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    Thats pretty much it, having our D constantly on the field skews the stats.

    After 2 pre season games, I still don't know how we will perform on both sides of the ball, everything either looks bad or very average.
     
  14. 85inthehall

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    The fact that the offense looks light years ahead of last year and they are putting points on the board has to be a cause to say this team isn't bad enough to only win 4 games.

    The offensive line is much better than last year's question mark going into week 1 and the running game seems to have a lot more potential.

    Add to that an OC that is able to design and game plan properly should allow the team to be in position to score.

    The defense is a bit of a mystery right now. Will they be as good as rex believe, awful, or middle of the road?

    This team can easily be 8-8 and if thins go one way or the other 6-10 or 10-6.
     
  15. Tommy Gunnz

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    I completely agree with your assessment, although I think 10-6 is probably our absolute "best case scenario" and 9-7 is fairly realistic if we get a couple bounces to go our way
     
  16. Blue Raven

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    Jets have the potential to win the battle at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's my only hope for any kind of success from them this season
     
  17. Bills>Jets

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    You guys will be lucky if you win 3 games.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You'll be lucky if you hit 3 posts.
     
  19. Burnz

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    Where is logic behind this comment? These moronic fans need to become realists without our best 2 players on both sides of the ball and with the butt fumble we still managed to win 6 and we were in playoff contention until the end of the season. Where were the bills? Bottom heap once again? Please I want to hear your reasoning. Entertain me
     
  20. Barcs

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    I don't get it. Some people just don't analyze anything, ever. There's a giants fan at my work that does nothing but deliver cheap shots to the Jets. Yesterday he said, "You guys might get lucky and win maybe 1 or 2 games?" I just don't see how they got all that much worse from last year, a nightmare year where we had many key injuries and everything that could have went wrong, did. People really are sold by the media ranking us dead last even for 3 years ahead. Coaching alone should get us 2-3 wins more than last year. People just religiously follow these beat writers and read nothing but the headline and think they know it all.
     

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