Eh, Revis was as instantly effective as any rookie CB could possibly have been expected to be. He was the best CB on the roster probably 5-6 weeks into the '07 season... not that there was much competition in that regard. By midseason he was drawing #1 WR assignments and only gave up 3 TDs for the year: Braylon, Lee Evans, Terrell Owens.
this isn't something specific to the Jets...this is the case with every team in the NFL. Rarely do you see a player come out of the draft and make an instant impact..it happens time to time but it doesn't happen nearly as often as you are suggesting. If that were the case there would be WAY more superstar level rookies in the NFL. Rookies take time to reach their peak. This is the way it goes not only in Florham but everywhere. Occassionally you'll hit pay dirt and get a player who bangs out of the gates (like Revis or Mangold). Also, our chances of hitting that pay dirt go down when our former GM goes all in and trades our draft picks like candy, and the team tries to compensate by working more with UDFA's. Although, the team has done pretty well with UDFA's such as Cumberland and Snacks Harrison.
Let him develop without overanalyzing each step along the way. He's adjusting to a higher caliber of play with limited practice time so far. He looked decent against Detroit as he had a nice run support tackle and a real nice pass breakup in the end zone where he had no help over the top. He'll keep adjusting/developing and his confidence will grow as long as he's on the field.
Old Snacks Harrison was pretty physically dominated on Saturday night. I'd hold off on calling him successful until he does something.
Outside of being dominated in 1 preseason game, all in all the guy has been a good find. I'm not calling him a superstar, I'm saying he's a guy who will make our active roster and fill a role well.
This...He's a rookie who missed OTA's wrapping up an injury rehab and missed the start of camp finalizing his contract....No need to overreact here.
Get used to it, it's going to be like this all season. Rookie corners always get burned. Jets fans were spoiled with Revis - nobody plays that good, that early at the corner position. I'm actually glad it happened in the preseason. It will humble the kid a little and knock him down a peg, a learning experience. I think Rex was fine with him learning as well. If that was a regular season game, I bet Rex switches Cromartie on Blackmon sooner...
I've actually been pleased w/ what I've seen from Milliner. I wasn't crazy about the pick as I think he benefitted significantly from his surrounding cast at Bama as well as Sabine's DB coaching points. He's displayed better physical skills than I gave him credit for. Very fluid hips, smooth in his breaks to the ball & very good recovery speed. All rookie corners are gonna give up completions. They are major targets for the opposition. He's a tough kid..he'll fight through it. He also will not be playing as much "off man" come the regular season. I think he has a bright future
Jonathon Vilma defensive rookie of the year. Anyway. Milliner's performance was bad, but he's a rookie so he gets a leeway for a year or two and besides most rookie CB's tend to get beat a lot. Milliner has natural ability and with our coaching he'll develop into a good CB.
yeh i hope he doesnt play so far back during the season. i did notice though that cro was leaving a little room too so maybe they were told to play back and not be so physical, i mean, it is preseason.
Aside from the fact that we had shit corners everywhere else on the roster, you're correct that he played as well as you can expect a rookie corner can play, but he wasn't lights out and he did have struggles with some receivers. The TD stat is impressive, but it isn't taking into account receptions he gave up in between goal lines. My point is that even the best corner in the league had some struggles as a rookie and the OP doesn't seem to know that when comparing a rookie to him after two preseason games.
We really expect perfection huh? I've actually liked what I've seen from Milliner so far. I wouldn't bank too much on the preseason.
While Revis wasn't Revis when he was a rookie, he was still a top 10 CB his first year. I'm still disappointed we traded him. He very well could go down as the greatest CB ever. Even better than Rod Woodson.
Based on what? I'm pissed he was traded too, and have been one of his biggest proponents here since halfway through his rookie season, but I didn't see him in the top ten of CB performance in 2007.
The eyeball test mostly. There isn't really a good ranking system for CB's. He did have 3 INT's, 17 PD's, and generally locked down WR's with his play.
But Revis competed. I remember TO giving him an education in the Thanksgiving day game his rookie year but he never backed down. He pressed him all day never ceding receptions underneath in fear of getting beat over the top. I don't believe you draft a CB in the first round unless you feel said CB can be a #1 CB. I feel Millner's ceiling is #2 CB just like Kyle Wilson's was a nickel. Also, Jets fans be prepared Millner will drop a ton of INTs; he has some pretty bad hands even for a CB. I'm also concerned about his tackling he's just not as physical as his scouting report suggest maybe that is a product of missing so much of the off season.
That's kind of vague. I could see a lot of potential with the eyeball test but didn't see a top ten CB, I saw rookie with a lot of promise. There's a decent ranking system in place by independent websites, but that wasn't really around in 2007. I actually was on the fence about him being top ten in 2008. The defensive scheme was always in disarray under Mangini, and when Rex got here, he was really entering his prime and was easily the best in the league. So maybe you saw something through the scheme that I did not in his first two years, but there doesn't seem to be a lot to hang that opinion on other than your own eyeballs.
Not top 5 but definitely top 10 in my eyes his rookie year. If we were not so bad, he probably could have made the Pro-bowl that year. He was that good. The only player I thought who took him to task a bit was TO and even in that game it was more the throws than it was TO. Lee Evans caught a 85 yards reception and run TD on him which Revis should have INT'd had our safety not drill him as he was high pointing the ball.
He gave up receptions. The telling stat is that he had his biggest total of tackles in his career as a rookie - 78. He's only gotten close to half of that in any year since. High cornerback tackle stats are most times a result of having to take your assignment down after a catch. I'm not saying he wasn't an excellent rookie. But being and excellent rookie doesn't make you top ten. I don't happen to have the 2007 season recorded, but I remember him giving up his fair share during that season and hoping he'd clean up his short game a lot for the following season. He was very aggressive at the LOS and it cost him at times. He was very good at not giving up TDs and that is a great start to a HOF career. He didn't start out in the top ten in my mind and I'm waiting to be convinced otherwise.
