Mehta:Blame Idzik

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  1. endydee

    endydee Active Member

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    Sounds to me NYJetsRevis24, like you are just spewing off anger, because your favorite player was traded..

    Nevermind that Revis' salary demands were unrealistic, especially for a player coming off of a major injury, and was too expensive for a team salary cap strangled. As for the mediocre DT, I think Sheldon Richardson, is going to be a very good player for a long time barring injury.

    I have no problem with Idzik so far. I am willing to give the man some time to see what he can do to clean up the mess and build a perennial contender.
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    One day hopefully you'll understand that idzik was left with a mess that was not going to be fixed in a single offseason. The jets were never going to be super bowl contenders in 2013
     
  3. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    So you have a one year plan to win it all this year?

    Lets do things the Knicks way and try to win it all each season with no eye to the future. That worked out well for the Jets in 2011-12 by shelling out big contracts to undeserving players that limit what we can do to improve until 2014. Paying Revis $15 million a year is so out of whack with his value, what CBs are paid and are worth, and killed the Jets cap. Couple that with the constant contract renegotiations and multiple holdouts and he had to go.
     
  4. Mr. Green Pants

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    There's a difference between reasoned criticism and this trash. I'm not surprised you can't recognize it.
     
  5. tank75

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    was there anyone doubting that the media was going to give idzik shit at any chance they got? i thought it was only a manner of when after how idzik treated the media whehn he came in here.

    im not happy he traded revis but im glad idzik is the new gm and i like the way hes handling things. this team is never going to be the medias darling and now were just kinda telling them to fuck off out of our way.

    this article is nothing more than a butthurt reporter whos upset he no longer has the inside track to whatever random dirt he might be able to squeeze out of a random member of the jets organization.

    this is funny more than anything to me, but i do feel bad i gave it a click for that reason haha
     
  6. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Here's a question for the group. IF Idzik fires Ryan at the end of this season and brings in his own coach, does this coach then bring in his own Qb? Especially if the 2013 record leaves the Jets with a great shot at TB in the 2014 draft? Does it all depend on how fast Geno picks up the pro game?
     
  7. Barcs

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    He did sort of leave. He moved to the NY Post, but still writes the same nonsensical articles. I don't know what it said, but to blame the GM for issues, after just 1 preseason game is ludicrous. I blame Mehta for not reporting anything beyond drama and gossip about our team. If the team has a terrible year or 2 and things don't work out on O or D THEN maybe we start blaming Idzik. At this point, he inherited a huge mess from the previous regime and was still very limited in what he could do. I don't even need to read womanish's article to know he's dead wrong and downright stupid for even saying that shit.
     
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  8. Jeti

    Jeti Well-Known Member

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    Interesting

    It would depend on who the HC is

    If Idzik has a side deal ready then it makes sense to have Geno start developing

    You'd figure a Seattle assistant would be our HC
     
  9. fozzi58

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    If someone still has the web page to the article open, please post it.

    I refuse to click the link and support that shit for brains Mehta any longer. Please do not click the link again as it defeats the purpose.
     
  10. Barcs

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    ^I have a feeling the OP is someone that works for the post because they purposely and lazily did not post the article as required by rules on here.

    We got the best rated DT, QB and CB in the draft. That's a good start. Please by all means, please tell me what you would have done better instead of just bitching and whining about Idzik. Surely you could have done better with almost no cap space and a CB that wanted 16 mil a year. By all means break it down for us. Show us your genius. :lol:

    DUDE! HE DIDN'T MAKE US AN INSTANT CONTENDER!!! WTF!!!! I WANT ALL FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS AT EVERY POSITION. YOU SUCK IDZIK!!! :lol:
     
  11. Br4d

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    This is an excellent question.

    If Geno Smith looks good enough to lock up the QB spot next year then the odds are good Rex is not getting fired. That makes a new coach scenario likely to occur in the context of uninspired QB play by the heir apparent or newly installed QB.

    I'd think the Jets would evaluate Geno based on what they thought of him moving forward at that point and then act according to that impression. If they got the 2 or 3 pick then the odds are pretty good they'd be under pressure to take Teddy Bridgewater if he stepped up and became clearly worth a pick that high.

    One thing that Geno would have going for him is that he's an Idzik regime pick. He has stakeholders in the building already. Whether those people want to take an additional stake in another QB high in the draft would be the question.

    The Rams chose not to take RGIII with Sam Bradford already in hand. It's unclear at this point whether they made the right call.
     
  12. G_know4Pres

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    True, but you have to keep in consideration that Bradford was the #1 overall pick. Geno landing in the 2nd round, without us trading up to get him, and that makes him semi-expendable.
     
  13. Br4d

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    This is true. However we're living in a new world now with the rookie wage scale. It's possible that a team that takes a QB on the #1 overall pick and then somehow has a top 2 pick a few years later should take the QB again.

    The reason I say that it's unclear if the Rams made a mistake is that it is unclear what value RGIII has a protected passer without putting himself at risk running the ball. If RGIII has franchise value in the pocket and can stay healthy then the Rams almost certainly made a mistake in not selecting him last year. The value for the franchise moving forward would be enormous with RGIII and Bradford as assets.
     
  14. nycarl

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    Here ya go-

    DETROIT — John Idzik stood in the losing locker room on Friday night as the man he hung out to dry spoke in somber tones about a team destined for irrelevance this season.

    Rex Ryan showed no visible signs of anger after the Jets’ 26-17 preseason-opening loss to the Lions as he reviewed all the “self-inflicted things” such as turnovers and penalties that killed his team.

    “Obviously,” Ryan said, “We’ve got to do a heck of a lot of improving.”

    Ryan has decided to absorb the blame and criticism sure to come his way even though his general manager has done nothing to help his cause.

    Idzik was immediately embraced by a fan base disillusioned by the previous regime that repeatedly doled out bad contracts. Although Idzik’s resume was very similar to his predecessor, he was packaged as a “football guy” whose personnel evaluation would set him apart from Mike Tannenbaum.

    It was a narrative steeped in fiction.

    The early returns on Idzik’s personnel evaluation skills are not good.

    His honeymoon officially ended 3 minutes, 49 seconds into the preseason opener when Mark Sanchez added to his ever-growing Pick-6 collection. The Jets were supposed to bring in a veteran quarterback this offseason to hold the fort before Geno Smith, who suffered a mild ankle sprain in the preseason opener, was ready to take over.

    Idzik had a handful of serviceable options, but he went on the cheap and took an unnecessary gamble on David Garrard.

    He could have signed Matt Hasselbeck — who would have been an ideal mentor for Smith — Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel, Tarvaris Jackson or Brady Quinn this offseason. He could have given up a 2014 fifth-round pick and 2015 conditional pick for Matt Flynn like the Raiders did.

    Although none of those quarterbacks is a franchise changer, it would have been a welcomed change from Sanchez, who’s already drawn the ire of a frustrated fan base.

    Instead, he went with a 35-year-old quarterback who hadn’t played a game in two seasons.

    Garrard, not surprisingly, didn’t even make it to training camp due to his troublesome knees, leaving Ryan with the unenviable task of giving the same murky answers surrounding the mistake-prone Sanchez.

    Although Ryan’s admission after the first preseason game that he was so engrossed with the defense that he didn’t get a chance to watch Sanchez or Smith play grabbed headlines, the real issue is that his GM didn’t fortify the position with another veteran.

    Idzik’s missteps don’t end there.

    His decision to sign running back Mike Goodson to a three-year, $6.9 million deal at the beginning of free agency has been an epic flop.

    Goodson, dealing with legal issues stemming from an offseason arrest on drugs and weapons charges, has been the Jets’ own personal Waldo, nowhere to be found through the first two weeks of training camp. Idzik won’t say where Goodson is or when/if he’ll ever come back.

    It was an embarrassing transaction for the first-time GM.

    Idzik’s draft-day trade for Chris Ivory, who was expected to be the No. 1 running back, hasn’t worked out yet, either, leaving Ryan and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg with a depleted backfield.

    Ivory, who has a history of injuries, has missed the first two weeks of practice and the first preseason game due to hamstring tightness.

    John Griffin’s fractured leg in the preseason opener leaves the Jets with one dependable running back, Bilal Powell. Career underachiever Joe McKnight is as reliable as your local meteorologist.

    Idzik threw a couple Hail Marys with Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards. Winslow, plagued by knee issues in recent years, has been Idzik’s best offseason acquisition.

    However, the general manager did a poor job not finding a quality wide receiver to mitigate the loss of Santonio Holmes, whose timetable for a return from a severe foot injury is unknown.

    Idzik’s stubbornness will preclude him from admitting these mistakes, but it all spells trouble for Ryan, who is left to defend a team that even Bill Belichick couldn’t win with.

    Ryan’s future beyond this season remains in doubt. He’ll keep his job if the Jets show improvement from their six-win disaster a year ago. But how realistic is that?

    His new boss didn’t exactly stack the roster to help him out.

    Twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN
     
  15. Barcs

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    Lie.

    Lie.

    Ah, so Idzik is at fault because Garrard got injured and Mike T gave MS a contract that guaranteed him money this year. Riiiiiiight. We had to go cheap, we had no cap space!! We were supposed to break the bank on a Vet? Why? So we can't sign Winslow, Goodson, Barnes and others?

    Fitz sucks, Cassel was one of the few QBs ranked lower than Sanchez. Yeah he totally would have turned us around! :lol:

    Yeah! Idzik was supposed to be psychic and know Goodson would have legal problems. Manish is a joke now. Goodson will return.

    The preseason just started and they've been cautious with his hamstring, AS THEY SHOULD. How are you going to complain about a preseason loss that means nothing?

    Because there were soooo many affordable choices right?

    Yep, just as I suspected, the article is a complete joke. This is the type of shit I could expect a few games into the season if they are struggling, but this is so premature it makes Manish's sexual longevity look amazing despite only lasting 15 seconds. Fuck this guy. Nothing but an immature whiny bitch. He doesn't write articles about football only drama. The circus begins and ends with this guy.
     
  16. BeastBeach

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    ^I agree that the article is a joke but you absolutely can blame him for signing Garrard and Goodson, both of which had issues and then replicated their respective issues this year.

    It doesn't take being a psychic to forecast Garrard getting hurt and/or Goodson being an idiot.
     
  17. Acad23

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    according to Hobbes, you have to be a genius though...
     
  18. JETlife14

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    This article is seriously embarassing. Sounds like Mehta believes the Jets should have brought in Brady Quinn, Matt Flynn or Cassell just because they're quarterbacks. What have they done in their careers?


    The only poor move by Idzik was bringing in Garrard. But there was no risk. He took a chance.
     
  19. fozzi58

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    I had the look of disgust on my face after the 3rd sentence. That was terrible. A ridiculous, reactionary article meant to anger a fan base with lies and half truths. Terrible reporting job. My 8yo could throw a mish mash of shit together that was better than this. So glad i didn't open the link..

    He could have brought me in as a no risk option at QB. How fucking stupid a statement is that. unreal. Garrard was the best FA QB out there that was available. Bringing in bodies just for the hell of it is a waste. And even a conditional 2015 pick would not have been worthy of Matt Flynn. Another stop gap.
     
  20. Barcs

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    By all means, elaborate. Who else could we have brought in at RB for that price that fit in well with WCO? If you take no risks ever, you will overpay for players every time. You have to work with the cap you have.
     

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