Is Coles A #1 Receiver???

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  1. WIJetsFan

    WIJetsFan New Member

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    G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD

    16 16 73 845 11.6 43 5 6 1 52 Laverneus Coles
    16 16 86 1073 12.5 39 3 18 0 52 Derrick Mason
    15 15 81 816 10.1 55 4 5 1 38 Eric Moulds
    16 16 97 1432 14.8 70 9 16 7 74 Chad Johnson
    16 15 69 1009 14.6 54 4 15 2 45 Antonio Bryant
    16 16 85 1105 13.0 72 6 15 1 55 Rod Smith
    13 13 63 688 10.9 53 2 4 1 40 Andre Johnson
    15 15 82 1146 14.0 80 12 14 3 59 Marvin Harrison
    16 16 70 1023 14.6 45 6 15 2 56 Jimmy Smith
    16 16 68 1102 16.2 55 5 17 5 47 Eddie Kennison
    16 16 82 1118 13.6 77 11 18 3 59 Chris Chambers
    16 15 78 998 12.8 51 5 13 1 51 Deion Branch
    16 15 60 1005 16.8 79 8 15 4 46 Randy Moss
    15 15 69 975 14.1 85 11 10 3 53 Hines Ward
    16 16 70 917 13.1 54 9 12 1 50 Keenan McCardell
    13 10 58 738 12.7 55 4 6 4 36 Drew Bennett
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    **If you notice with all #1 AFC receivers from last season...Coles didn't stack up too well. He had a better year than Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds and I'll give him with Drew Bennett who played 3 fewer games. The Jets could use a #1 receiver....Coles makes a great complementary receiver.
     
  2. plasticsloth

    plasticsloth Well-Known Member

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    i think you also have to realize that he had no legitimate qb throwing to him. If you want to figure out if he's a number one reciever, check out his first (and i believe only) year with pennington.
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Compare all of those teams quarterback play as well as running game and offensive line play. Coles was the only player we had last year that has really ever been a starter or deserved to be a starter.
     
  4. nyjunc

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    Coles played w/ 5 diff QBs, no running game and a beat up OL. The #s he put up were incredible considering what he was surrounded by.
     
  5. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    I think he is. Coles is fearless... Someone in another thread said a true #1 isn't afraid to go over the middle... When has Coles ever been afraid to go over the middle?? He's a stud believe me. The fact he put up 70+ grabs and 800+ yards with no running game and FIVE different QB's in one season is remarkable... If we get a healthy QB with a decent arm he'll prove himself again. But that's just my opinion.
     
  6. AMJets

    AMJets Well-Known Member

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    Coles is a #1 WR. He's not in the class of Owens, Moss, Ward, Johnson, etc., but he's a strong #1 for a lot of teams.
     
  7. JetFighter

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    Ridiculous to compare his 2005 numbers in a vacuum. He had a 3rd stringer with no offensive line or running game throwing to him. in 2003 he had 1,204 yards. In 2004 he had 90 receptions with a horrible quarterback situation in DC an no other receiving threat.

    But forgetting all of that, he fits the Mangini mold: a tough, hard nosed football player who will do what it takes to win.
     
  8. AlioTheFool

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    I agree with 10Penny10. If there was a WR like the 4 he mentioned on the team he would definitely be the #2, but on most teams, he is a legit 1. His only downside is his height. If he were another 2-3 inches taller, he would be up there with those other guys, even with a mediocre QB. With a decent QB though, even at his height, with his speed, and pure guts, he gets my nod as a #1 any day.
     
  9. WIJetsFan

    WIJetsFan New Member

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    How many AFC teams had GOOD QB play??? Six maybe...fine he had bad QB play but #1 receivers produce big numbers in the face of all the adversity that players go through
     
  10. AlioTheFool

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    How many AFC teams with mediocre QB play had at least a functional running game. We had a 3rd string QB, and a QB who started the year on his couch this year. We also had absolutely no running game, and the OLine gave our QBs less than 3 seconds all the time.

    The fact that he had over 70 receptions with a better than 10ypc average tells you more than anything else.
     
  11. Ten

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    Number 1 receivers don't produce big numbers with 4 different QBs,it's as simple that.Bad QB play is a QB who throws for only 3000 yards or has a QB rating of under 80,Coles pretty much had horrible QB play with the exception of a couple of games.
     
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    he's a number one

    he's not an elite WR, aslong as he's in a good offense, he's a #1
     
  13. UncleTomNYJ

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    not with pennington at qb, with his speed he needs a strong armed qb
     
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    It's crazy to base opinions on his performance last year. He's definitely a No.1 receiver.
     
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    I acknowledge our QB's sucked, but I agree, that plenty of WR's with horseshit Qb's outperformed Coles. I like the idea of getting a true #1 and keep Coles as #2.
     
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    Hes a #1 reciever on the New York Jets I REST MY CASE.
     
  17. WIJetsFan

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    Dude..weren't YOU the one saying that he's NOT a #1 receiver on the Jets. You better come correct!!!
     
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    once again hes a #1 reciever ON THE NEW YORK JETS WHAT DONT YOU GET?
     
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    On The New York Jets Is The Key.
     

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