Marc Sessler: New York Jets' QB duel might end before training camp

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  1. iTzPoPPaBeaR

    iTzPoPPaBeaR Member

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000204989/article/new-york-jets-qb-duel-might-end-before-training-camp

    Figured they would want to see what they would do in Pre-season at the very least.
     
  2. Lehtonen

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    I would hate that. I'm on the Geno bandwagon, but they should make him EARN it. Really defeats the idea of competition of a job is just handed to a guy.
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    lol..and I said this wasn't worthy of its own thread. (It's posted in the Sanchez sucks thread)
     
  4. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    As stated by many people, many months ago, Sanchez will be the starter when the season opens. How long he is a starter remains to be seen but don't think for a minute that Nacho will be holding a clipboard come September. As soon as the fan base gets over that fact, the better off they will be.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Where does the article say Smith may be handed the job without competing for it?
     
  6. Win4ever

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    To me, this means one of two things:

    1) Geno impressed the crap out of them, that they feel he's clearly going to beat Sanchez out. Reports so far indicated that they've been very impressed with him. And with Izdik's reluctance to mention Sanchez being assured of a roster spot earlier in the season would jibe with this as well. The lack of getting a veteran QB on the roster after Garrard retired also indicates this, because Sanchez would serve as the defacto veteran backup.

    - Makes sense if this year is just going to be rebuilding, might as well see what Geno has.
    -Sanchez is most likely gone after this year. The best case scenario with him, is that he improves his play with MM. However, then he'd have to get paid a substantial amount of money to come back if his stats are good. They would be better off trying to develop Smith and hope they can get a couple of years of good QB play before his rookie contract expires.
    -Smith is more talented that Sanchez (better accuracy, better mobility, and both have similar arm strengths) thus is a better option to build around. MM has done his best work with QBs that have some mobility. This is also emphasized by the fact that we went after Garrad, another QB that also could run a bit and move outside the pocket. His best works came with McNabb/Garcia/Vick with the Eagles. Also Steve Young/and Jeff Garcia again. His worst came with Harrington in Detroit. So it's pretty evident that he does his best work, when he has someone that the defense has to account for as a running threat. That may have sealed the competition for him.
    -The Fans would go nuts if Sanchez started, and there would be more of a circus atmosphere again.
    -Geno picked up the playbook faster than expected, which could be viable since all we heard about him right until we drafted him was that he was a film and playbook junkie.

    2) Geno tanked the crap out of these early sessions, and they feel he's not ready.

    Makes sense because:

    -He's a rookie, coming into a new system.
    -The talent level around him will cause growing pains.
    -Sanchez could be given one final shot, especially with the HC that lobbied for him, still at the helm.

    I'd say Option 1 is more likelier, because if Geno struggled, he would still have plenty of time to correct it and learn. If he excelled, and is ahead of the curve, then they can try and focus on getting him the most reps with the No. 1 group, and build connections and timing, an important concept in MM's offense. Sanchez wouldn't require as much, because he already has timing with a few of the weapons (as mistimed as the timings may be...) so he wouldn't benefit as much with calling the competition off early.

    So to recap, most likely good news for Geno.
     
  7. The Dark Knight

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    Sanchez will win the job. No doubt about it.
     
  8. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I think people are reading too much into this. Read what Morningwood said. He didn't say anything other than they don't care what the talk outside of the Jets is and they'd be willing to name a starter prior to training camp if one guy clearly owns the other in OTA's.

    That's it.

    I like what he said btw ... he's putting pressure on both of them from day one.
     
  9. 1968jetsfan

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    Yep if one folds under the pressure of competition in training camp they don't deserve to even be considered as a starter :D
     
  10. ArmandJ

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    I'd put it at 90-10 odds that Geno is starting
     
  11. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You taking bets at those odds? :lol:
     
  12. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    1. No reason to throw Geno into the fire on an average team.
    2. Give Sanchez his final shot to see what he can do with a good OC.
    3. The team still considers Sanchez a leader. (Mangold/Holmes as examples)
    4. Sanchez does nothing for you on the bench. If you start him, he will either succeed, or give you reason to officially give up on him. Then you can insert Geno for final 6 or so games.
     
  13. NFL

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    I agree with you on this. Only thing is, if Geno just completely dominates Sanchez on the competition, then you can't start Sanchez. Winner starts, unless they are both equal (Sanchez is supposed to be good in practice) or Geno wins by just a little. If Geno does win but not by much, then start Sanchez, when he fucks up, Geno comes in.
     
  14. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Sure. The organization has much more to lose with Sanchez starting than with Geno.
     
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    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    You would think having a five turnover game against a 5 win team would be enough to give up on a quarterback.

    I can't imagine Mangold or Holmes criticizing Sanchez in public with Idzik in charge.

    Sanchez has had 4 chances to produce. He really should just go.
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    If they have less to lose, arent your odds backwards?

    They do have far less to lose with Sanchez under center. Especially with a questionable OL.
     
  17. ArmandJ

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    Thanks for correcting me. My point still stands.
     
  18. Swedish Ale

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    Good post.
    This is how I see it too.
     
  19. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    just how many empty seats will the team have if el taco loco is the starter?

    he managed to disgust even fireman ed. start mcelroy ( another version of jeff garcia), or smith. cut a check and eject el taco for a 2014 draft pick to a team that needs a backup qb.

    otherwise, all that competition talk will end up being meaningless. seattle started a 3rd round rookie overa high-priced qb, and shipped a vet qb to buffalo for a 7th round pick.
     
  20. laxin

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    Do you have quotes of this?
     

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