PFT: Quinton Coples heard Ryan’s message loud and clear

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  1. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    My only question is why did Coples hear about this from his agent? If rex has a problem with Coples work ethic, shouldn't he share that face to face with the player?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/17/quinton-coples-heard-ryans-message-loud-and-clear/

    Rex Ryan sent a message to Quinton Coples last week, telling reporters that he wasn’t happy with Coples’ performance in the weight room.

    Thanks to modern technology, the message was received.

    Coples said he found out about Ryan’s remarks when his manager got a Google alert in his inbox.
    “He’s a coach and he spoke how he felt and I took it, moved on and got better this week,” Coples said, via Conor Orr of the Newark Star-Ledger.

    Ryan’s intent was obvious on several levels, including the continuing mockery of the term “voluntary” workouts. If you don’t volunteer, you get called out, and perhaps worse down the line.

    Coples said he hadn’t talked to Ryan since then, but he agreed with the coach’s assessment.

    “I wouldn’t say I got too comfortable, it was just during a drill, it was videotaped and I could have given a better effort,” Coples said. “The next day when we came back in, I gave better effort. . . .

    “I wasn’t shocked by it, it was something he did and I responded well. I responded in the weight room and I got better.”

    Which means, mostly, that Ryan’s tactic worked.

     
  2. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    As long as he does what he needs to do to improve. It would be nice if he didn't need a kick in the ass to do it, but some guys just react better to that.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Coaches can reach their players in many different ways, the media being one of them. Bill Parcells was pretty good at that. Rex called out Kerley last year in the media and he seemed to take to it pretty well.

    Some guys are motivated differently than others. It's important that coaches understand what motivates their players and how to go about doing that. Hopefully Rex is doing this because he believes it's a good way to motivate Coples and not just because it seemed to work with Kerley last year.
     
  4. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    It's called throwing somebody under the bus.

    I do it alla the time. It's fun.
     
  5. JetsFanDoc

    JetsFanDoc Well-Known Member

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    Coples will dominate this year.
     
  6. NFL

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    I find it better that Rex called him out through the media instead of face to face. Now Quinton knows that everyone knows that he's been slacking, which will make him work harder.
     
  7. themorey

    themorey Well-Known Member

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    The author of that article is drawing conclusions from Coples remarks. Saying he found out about Ryan's remarks to the media from his manager does not absolutely mean he did not hear the same remarks from Ryan directly, before Ryan said it to the media. It just means he wasn't aware that Ryan said it during his press conference.
     
  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Some players just work better under pressure. Rex has been very reticent about Coples since rookie camp last year. It's almost like Coples struck him wrong coming in the door and Rex hasn't been able to get back on track with him.

    I wonder if Coples was really a Rex pick or if he was the next guy down the list when Bruce Irvin got taken unexpectedly at 15? The pick seemed strange at the time because Coples doesn't really fit in the 3-4, a fact made apparent by his sparing use early last year and the somewhat awkward conversion to OLB this year.
     
  9. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    It's one of Rex's weaknesses -he prefers veterans that are complete Rex ball washers.
     
  10. Petey

    Petey Active Member

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    Weren't there reports that Rex told Q that the Jets were absolutely going to take him if he were on the board and that wound up pissing off the scouting staff? Assuming that happened, doesn't seem like Rex wasn't on board with drafting Coples.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Has to be a Rex pick.

    Rex personally worked him out at his proday. No way the Jets take him, if Rex said he sux.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This is my main problem with Rex. He is far too media conscious.

    Yeah, I get that this is the media age and I get that some players need to be reached in different ways, but Rex has also used to media far too much as a coaching method, and it showed the past two seasons when many players came out flat after a media assassination and far too many players felt the need to air dirty laundry to the Jets media corps.

    Not that I'm yearning for Mangini, but sometimes it's annoying to see.

    Thankfully, Rex hasn't been the constant soundbite that he has been in previous years.

    We don't know what Rex has tried in the past to motivate Coples, who has been described a having motivational issues, so I can only hope that this was the method that worked.
     
  13. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    If this gets Coples attention and he works harder, fine.

    My only issue with this is that everyone knows that the media feeds on this shit. Now Coples will be under an even bigger microscope with them, and they'll be questioning everything he does, looking for anything to keep bringing this up.

    This guy came into the league with supposed work ethic issues, and Rex just added more credence to them.
     
  14. BE_A_JET

    BE_A_JET New Member

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    Hope Coples gets his act together. The knock on him coming out of college is that he was a slacker.
     
  15. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    And yet Rex NEVER called Mark out on his piss poor play. No consistency.
     
  16. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    A Qb and a DE/OLB are completely different, especially in terms of how their mentality is addressed.

    Let's not turn this into a Sanchez thread.
     
  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Yep. If a coach calls his QB out for issues of mentality he better be prepared to replace the guy for good shortly thereafter. Can't have the enlisted grunts watching the General yell at his officers. Makes for a lousy chain of command moving forward.
     
  18. Over & Out

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    these players need to be paid on performance alone. I think that will motivate every player. It`s all about money, not winning. These players don`t give a rats arse about anything but money. They should be paid on a game to game basis, and solely based on their performance. Incentive pay as they call it. Once these dooshes get their bank accounts filled up, they simply do not care about winning, the fans, or anything, except MORE money.
     
  19. Deschain

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    They've tried that... Didn't go over very well. i.e. Greg Williams
     
  20. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    I'm very encouraged that Rex was actually in the weight room.
     

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