Stop Blaming Rex for Sanchez's ineptitude.

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Any discussion of Sanchez ineptitude, has to start with A: the talent around him, and B: the scheme.

    You draft a guy at 5, you fit the scheme to him.

    Mardy Gilyard, Clyde Gates, CHaz Schillens?
    He looked pretty good week one with Kerley,Holmes and Hill.

    Go back and watch the tape of week one. Nice tight TD throw to Kerley. 33 yard TD toss to Hill in double coverage.

    Even with missing key offensive hands players, all season he still completed 55%. Do you really think that keeping the week one cast together injury free all season isn't 5% better?
     
  2. #1 Jets Fan

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    "Sure the roster was weak on offense" sounds to me that the GM jobs not HC? Let blame Rex for someone else not doing there job.
     
  3. fozzi58

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    Then Tanny should still be here?

    Sanchez shortcoming are split evenly. 50% is squarely on the shoulders of the organization, that is partially Rex. But the decision makers putting people around Mark is also part of the problem - WR carousel, OL deterioration, poor TEs. And offensive coordinator who Rex picked, was also a poor choice. But when Rex wanted Haley to come in he was turned down. Plus there wasn't much else on the OC market. Bringing in Tebow was also not Mark's fault. Stanton should have stayed as a backup.

    Everything else is on Mark's head - poor throws, staring down receivers, not throwing ball away, piss poor ball security, and the list goes on. He's a broken QB and unless a miracle worker comes in to coach him, he is done in NY and probably the league. I'd like to see Stanton, Moore, Henne, and a couple other available retreads that don't cost the team picks come in for a full on audition. My dream for this year would be to see Simms make an impact and take over but he's most likely camp fodder and not enough of a ball player to make it like daddy did.
     
  4. fozzi58

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    How about playing from behind in all but 4 games?
     
  5. The Dark Knight

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    The GM was fired because he did a terrible job. Still, Rex also did a bad job. The team seemed like they were never prepared the last month of the year too. Tough to watch. It was not all on Rex, but to not blame him would be crazy.
     
  6. Hobbes3259

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    Ryan played the hand he was dealt, that's why Tanny got sacked.

    To exorcise the ghost of Parcells.

    Ryan inherited Schitty, and couldn't get rid of him after two straight AFCCG. But as the offensive talent changed Schotty didn't, 8-8 buh bye. Enter Sparano, who...while an upgrade (plagued by injuries) was a Parcells guy, and not a true OC.

    If Holmes,Keller and Hill never get hurt, this team probably wins at least 9 and no one gets fired. But they did.
     
  7. Hobbes3259

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    Sort of. I think the media has it wrong. It's not that Rex had too much say over the players, the GM took too much say in the staff.
     
  8. fozzi58

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    Easily better than 5%.

    But Sanchez still has the deer in headlights look occasionally even when things are going well for him (e.g. Colts game)
     
  9. Hobbes3259

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    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SimmPh00.htm


    Simms was a bum for 8 years, before getting it right.

    Sanchez was 11starts removed from his last high school game when he got drafted.

    Let's put Mark on a Phil Simms leash.
     
  10. #1 Jets Fan

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    Do u know 8 of the 16 games the offense scored 10 or less points? One was a win.
     
  11. Hobbes3259

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    Get hit enough that happens. (Kenny O).

    You can cure that by getting him back to feeling comfortable and in charge.
     
  12. jetiron

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    What about a few good throws? Tebow probably had a few good throws too in his career. But he still stinks as a passer. Statistically Sanchez is bottom two QB in the NFL for last four years which is more than enough evidence that he is a major part of the problem. Bottomline is don't expect to win with him with any consistency. Just watch his freaking throws, he is off by a country mile and defensive backs read him like a book.
     
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    My problem with Rex is that he is daft and impulsive and has no strategy for NYJ whatsoever. A HC without a solid vision is just hot air, and therefore we have to listen to anecdotal ramplings from RR:
    Sometimes about players after the draft, '... he is the biggest ever, i mean this guy is big'
    Sometimes about the way Jets will play, '... make no mistake, this team doesn't give up . . . nobody will want to meet us . . .'
    Never anything of substance that would give away a larger plan.
     
  14. Organized Chaos

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    No, I dont think Sanchez would have hit 60% completion percentage with holmes still around. Nothing in his previous years suggests he would have gotten there. He just isnt that good.
     
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    You can make that excuse for every single quarterback that has came and then disappeared from this league. He just sucks! End of story...
     
  16. KyleJetfan

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    5 years ago, the media wanted Coughlins head. He coached his ass off and they won. This year, they blame the 2 time Superbowl MVP Eli Manning. Its a joke. You know how many times I heard the injury excuses from the Giants and their Defense? Jets cant get the same excuses though, its all on the head coach. Ridamdiculous. Let rex try and fix it. Hes earned that right. A coach with his head on the chopping block can be very dangerous.
     
  17. CurbYourEnthusiasm

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    The answer to your last statement is somewhere in between. I don't think anyone is absolving Rex for this team winning 6 games last yr, but I do think compared to the rest of the problems the Jets have, Rex is farrrr down the totem pole. The defense looked pretty prepared to me the last month of the season. I find it hard to put the majority of the blame on Rex for the garbage talent we had on offense.
     
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    We need a great draft a couple key free agents and an adequate QB and the Jets make the playoffs. Hit on a QB who the hell knows.
     
  19. Ben Had

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    Mark Sanchez will be the starting QB for the jets in 2013. Your head coach has made this clear...

    You have no choice...Rex will pick the best people that give the jets the best chance to win!
     
  20. TheJetChase

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    I'm so tired of hearing people say Rex needed to pull Sanchez. What Sanchez needed most was his vote of confidence and even though it didn't work out, it was the right move. Sanchez was better than the options on our bench. I would rather start Sanchez over McElroy or Tebow any day. Do you think Rex is sitting there telling Sanchez to throw in double and triple coverage? I highly doubt it.

    Rex is the best head coach we've had in a long team and you guys are all so spoiled over two seasons that we're calling for his head after a 2011 season where we should've been in the play offs and a 2012 season where we over performed.

    This team was a 4-12 team talent wise. We got 6 wins and should've gotten more.
     
    #40 TheJetChase, Jan 9, 2013
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