It's become apparent that they, and not Woody, wanted Tebow here. With that: (1) How could they think that Tebow could seamlessly replace Brad Smith, who also did punt and KR's, so he was happy doing 1-2 plays at QB, plus a few more at WR ?? They promised Tebow 15-20 plays a game and he was never even getting half of that, sometimes not even 1/4 of that. (2) How could they not envision the chaos that would surround combining Tebow with the NY media/sports market ?? (3) How could they want him to run The Wildcat, and then do a U-Turn so quickly in the preseason ? How could they get it so wrong so quickly ???? (4) Did they take Tebow THINKING it would please Woody, even if he never pushed for it ?? Did they think he would be an OK backup QB and would help sell PSL's --which ultimately helps them since it helps the cash position for the entire team ???? (5) If they knew during preseason it wasn't gonna work -- they clearly weren't using Tebow, despite all the hush-hush talk -- why not cut him then ??? Bringing in Tebow to me is the single greatest debacle in recent years, worse than our draft busts, where you never know and consensus is that a guy was a good pick when he was taken. This was something that NOBODY thought would work from Day 1 and yet the Jets hierarchy insisted they knew better. I am not calling for Rex -- or even MT -- to be fired. But if I were the owner -- and one who was catching flak for the move, apparently unfairly -- I would be pissed and asking both of these guys 1 simple question that I want a clear, succinct answer to: What the hell were you guys thinking ???
Why do you think Rex wanted Tebow here when he doesn't use him 'at all'? He's even gone out of his way not to use him. MAYBE Tanny wanted him, that I could see. I still think it was more likely Woody but Tanny being on board with it wouldn't shock me.
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Don't think Woody would ever publicly admit to pushing for Tebow at this stage. Although I do believe this was his decision. At the same time, most of us have jobs & we know eating shit & taking blame for your supervisor/managers mistakes is the norm in many places. No matter how badly Woody pushes for Tebow, I expect Rex & Tanny to publicly say it was on them. Now if Tebow acquisition worked out well then I'd expect Woody to step up & take the credit.
whatever, can't defend that one. regardless, i still think the hate for woody goes way too far. he wants to win regardless, some people act like he doesnt
I think it's almost certain at this point that Woody pushed for the Tebow acquisition to make more money off merchandise sales. It's also quite ridiculous that Jets' ticket prices are the highest in the league, so the team has to buy out all the remaining tickets to avoid blackouts. It looks like Woody is too concerned about making money rather than trying to win and getting fans in the stands. Maybe it's time for him to sell this team to someone who would actually care more about winning....
He defintiely wants to win, but in what world does bringing Tebow here he;p that? After resigning Sanchez nad signing Stanton, it was a stupid trade
Owners want 2 things: (1) a good team (2) to make $$$$$ Rex and MT are only focused on (1). As are every other team and coach. But if they thought they could help (1) and also help (2), then that probably explains their enthusiasm. If you need a backup QB anyway, why not take a guy who you KNOW your owner will be thrilled to have for marketing purposes, right ? Unfortunately, these guys had to realize the only way this works -- the Jets go 10-6 or better, Sanchez has a great year, Tebow gets lots of snaps in garbage time and a few when the games count -- was never a high probability. That's why I blame Rex and MT: one of them should have been a check on the other's passion for the move. SOMEBODY close to them should have said: "Hey guys....this isn't a Brad Smith thing....this guy isn't going to be happy playing QB 2-3 times a game...he can't play WR...he's not returning punts or kicks...you're gonna have a circus, we need a veteran QB with 8-10 years of experience to backup Mark who is NOT seen as a 'threat' and who will not be a media distraction."
We had Drew Stanton to who might have been a good option but he wanted out as soon as we did the Tebow bullshit. Now we will never know how shitty Stanton was or how good he might have become
Owners want 1 n 2 both. CS has no business bringing in 2. No CS would risk their jobs by wanting 2 while sacrificing 1. Seriously, if that was the case, Jets cs would have signed Justin Bieber to play RB. That would have brought a few gazillion psycho teens to the fan base. I don't think I'm making any football sense here with Bieber BS. Neither are you with CS wanting $$$ theory that has no legs.
when you are right you are right. Tebow is the single greatest reason why you guys had a bad season. Mark never played bad before T-Satan's 79 snaps it certainly cost the jets a playoff spot.
If you ever worked at a large dysfunctional corporation, they insulate themselves from the outside world. Bad ideas are often rubber stamped and hubris mentality that we're smarter than everyone else. Sure, Woody wanted Tebow but if the GM and HC both stood up to Woody, then Tebow wouldn't be here. Rex doesn't know offense and probably said yeah we'll think up a use for him. Beside in Rex's mind Mark was going to be his starting QB no matter what so why would it matter if they traded for Tebow? Tanny doesn't know crap, he'd rubber stamp anything. In short, all involved deserve blame. They all laughed off the criticism. Now it's time to pay the piper. If your boss asks you to jump out the window and you do it, who do you really have to blame.
That's great and all but if Woody, who is still signing your check lets you air out your concerns to him as a GM & HC and he decides that its still a money maker and he wants it, then you do it. You're telling me you never went to your supervisor to debate a point, that made good common sense, as well as the best interest for the company, and your boss &/or higher ups went the opposite direction from your recommendation? If you have never been in that situation then you haven't worked in Corp America long enough - or your not working in IT in corp America. This shit goes on all the time. For WJ to want Tebow to put asses in the seats for more money and to go against his subordinates recommendations is probably an every day occurrence in the NFL.
He's a backup QB. For all intents and purposes, he replaced Mark Brunell. Stanton hasn't so much as taken even 1 snap this year. Tebow may be a lightning rod, but it's not like his signing really affected anything... - it's not like they gave up signing an All Pro to sign him.
Petrozza, all the good reporting we have read has shown that Woody did NOT initiate, push, or ask for Tebow. It was Rex and MT, and when they brought it to Woody, what was he gonna say -- no ? As long as they wanted him for football purposes, Woody was not gonna object. The key question is this: Did Rex/MT bring in Tebow knowing that the biggest plus would be to please Woody.....perhaps KNOWING that the team was unlikely to have a good year and maybe some 'sideline sizzle' would please the owner and/or save their jobs (or at least deflect more heat than otherwise would be the case) ?? I'm thinking Mark Fydrich and the Tigers in 1976: mediocre team, tons of publicity. And $$$$. Rex is new to the NYC area but MT isn't. The rest of the team has plenty of people who should have told these guys: you are playing with DYNAMITE by bringing in Tebow. If the Team or Mark struggles, then the fuse is lit. I would say that 80-90% of folks here and in calling to WFAN/ESPN1050 did NOT like the trade. You NEVER see that unanamity on a trade or draft pick. Again: we knew something was wrong as early as pre-season, and they bull******* us with "wait until the real games start." What happened between the preseason and his signing ? Did they know from the get-go it wouldn't work ? What changed ??
