It must suck to play D for the Jets!

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  1. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Last night was definitely on the offense for all the turnovers and the dropped TD pass but I was a bit disappointed in the D. They played so great except for that 1 Chris Johnson run where he went 90+ yards untouched and that other drive where Locker looked like RGIII. They played so well other then that but that was a game where they should have played big time and held the other team without a TD.
     
  2. kinggofg

    kinggofg Active Member

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    You shouldn't just look at points or yards when grading our defense.

    When your offense is as attrocious as ours the D has to stop the other team that many more times. Gruden made some coment like this last night and it mde me think.

    If you took a measure of true turnovers in the season (by true turnovers I mean Defense takes the field and the oposing team doesn't score. If they get a field goal thats half a turnover). I bet we are top 5 and possibly even number 1. You could make it more complicated and discount drives starting from inside our own territory due to boneheaded turnovers by the offense, but this would just help our D. I think the D way outplayed their level of skill and experience.

    Yes we had a couple of games where ther other team blew out our D. But thats also partially because everytime our O got the ball they were 3 and out. The patriots score 50 points because they have 14+ attempts to score in a game. Oh and Tom Brady is a pretty good QB with a system built around him for a decade.
     
  3. JETS1116

    JETS1116 Well-Known Member

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    With Wilkerson and Coples, I don't believe our front 7 is slow, they are quick for d-lineman as they are young and studs.

    Our linebackers need work. Pace, Scott and Thomas are too slow/old. All will be gone next year. Hopefully Harris returns to previous years' form, Demario Davis pans out, and we draft an OLB this year. I guess plug in McIntyrre in the other OLB spot.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the only one that looks like an idiot is the one who is cursing.

    There are a lot of if's in your statement, the bottom line is Sanchez handed the D a 3 pt lead late in the game. We have no idea how the game plays out if he doesn't throw the INT but it was NOT a killer INT. You should brush up on this game instead of being a whiny excuse maker.
     
  5. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    How about the one last night?

    Or the one in the Seattle game?

    Or the one in the Houston game where they return it for 99 yards. We WERE in definite field goal range that time. They won by six.

    Those are all interceptions where, had they not been made, we would have won the game.
     
  6. Tenn_JetsFanatic

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    I think it sucks worse to be a Jets fan. This year has been brutal for me and it's effected my love of football
     
  7. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    seriously... you of all people should not be calling someone else an whiny excuse maker. Sanchez threw 4 interceptions and led this offense to just 10 points, and you are going to blame the defense because they didnt hold the titans to 7 points?

    And stop it with "sanchez handed the defense a lead and they choked it away." you make it sound like we were up 17 points or something. blowing a FG lead is hardly a huge injustice. especially when you are constantly on the field because of all the horrible turnovers.

    if anyone choked, it was sanchez. the defense gave him 2 chances late to win it for us. and he threw a pick on one and fumbled on the other.

    we lost. and we lost because of mark sanchez. period.
     
  8. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    sorry, Offense lost that game in NE.
    Hill dropped the pass. Even still, ST gave us the ball back with limited time left, and the offense only needed a 1st down to close out the game against a poor defense. Instead they lost yds, took no time off the clock, and made it a difficult FG which Folk converted.

    And to even think about blaming the D for last night, shows you do not know a thing about how football games are won/lost.
     
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  9. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Totally correct.
    the fact that the D only allowed 14 pts despite a -5 turnover differential courtesy of Sanchez, is actually quite impressive.
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I didn't blame the D, I said the D doesn't go blameless. While we are patting the D on the back they blew a lead and allowed a 94 yd TD run. The O sucks, the D couldn't pick them up against a weak opponent.
     
  11. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    Well of course the D isn't blameless. This loss was maybe 1% on the defense.
     
  12. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    But the D did pick them up.
    they routinely stopped Tenn after Sanchez turnovers, and held a -5 turnover differential to only 14 pts. They also gave Sanchez multiple opportunities with time on the clock late in the game to score. that's what offenses are supposed to do, score points. Instead they turned it over 2 more times.
    Game is squarely to blame on offense, specifically Sanchez.
     
  13. jets4lyfah

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    really? they were HANDED a lead and they coughed it up in a new york minute
     
  14. MontrealAlouettes

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    The problem is not the D itself but that the way this team is constructed, the D needs to be all time great to give this team a chance.

    Rex has shown he is willing to sacrifice offense to rest "his" D...Sanchez is terrible but what is also terrible is that he's surrounded by a low risk offense that can't make big plays; a boring, conservative offense and a turnover prone QB, the worst of both worlds right there.

    And the D is above average but far from blameless...as good as it is, they are far from clutch. How many big runs does this team give up just after taking the lead? Making the big stops is just as important as making most stops.
     
  15. MexicanJet

    MexicanJet Well-Known Member

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    When you give up 14 points (all be it the 96 yard run play and a big drive down their throats) you really shouldn't be losing the game. The D for the most part in the past 3 games have been lights out. The blame absolutely goes on the offense. It's gotta be discouraging that the D is pulling their weight and the offense does nothing.
     
  16. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    What team wins when their QB turns it over 5 times?
    i think allowing only 14 pts in those circumstances is pretty solid.
    There is a problem with how the team is constructed, and it starts with lack of QB.
     
  17. ArmandJ

    ArmandJ Well-Known Member

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    It's a fucking three point lead. It's not like we were up 40.

    If they cough up a lead, it's the OFFENSES's job to get it back. We shouldn't have to hope for pick sixes and terrible punts to win the game.
     
  18. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    again, you keep saying they "blew a lead" like we were up 2 or 3 scores. San francisco on sunday night. thats blowing a lead. being up by 3 points and allowing the opponent to score, thats hardly blowing anything....


    couldnt pick them up!?!

    - The Jets offense turned the ball over FIVE times.
    - The defense allowed tennessee to score ZERO points off of those turnovers.

    Are you really going to try and tell me that holding the titans offense to ZERO points off of 5 turnovers isnt "picking up the offense"? Not to mention the Defense got sanchez the ball back twice, late with a chance to win it. and he responded with 2 turnovers.

    We are lucky it was even close. If the jets defense didn't step up we would have lost 35-10.
     
  19. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    :cool: CJ better break a 94 yarder this yearrrrr
     
  20. rohirrim665

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