Sparano - 3rd and short playcalling

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  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Um..... No. You still have to block pass rushers. The designed free blockers get out and block. Occassionally you will allow the pass rusher to get up field without much resistance but not at the expense of the QB's ability to make the play. On the play you are referencing Austin Howard got destroyed.
     
  2. Demosthenes9

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    Actually, on the play I'm discussing, the very first play of the game, Austin Howard stood his guy up about 3 yards short of Sanchez. D'Brick's man got to the inside and came up on Sanchez's front, but he was still about a yard or so short when Sanchez threw the ball. Whomever Austin was blocking (#79) is the one who batted it away.


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    Thing is, on screen passes, as discussed, dlinemen are going to be coming at the QB and in their face. It's the QBs job to get the ball over the Dlinemen to the RB.
     
  3. rohirrim665

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    Weren't we debating getting Todd Haley to split duties with Sparano? Why didn't we just straight up hire Haley instead of Sparano? Did Sparano really look better, or was Haley just not going to come here?
     
  4. F Miami

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    The problem with Sparano is that the words flow, rhythm, and situational football do not enter into his vocabulary.
     
  5. VanderbiltJets

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    Why didn't we run it more against the league's (situationally. i.e. they're seattle and they're playing at home) best run defense? hmmmm
     
  6. Barcs

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    This was the first game we used Tebow that often. For most of the season Greene has been perfect in 3rd and 1 scenerios. I just don't understand the lack of trust for him to pick up ONE yard. Tebow doesn't come in and they keep Sanchez in for a run up the gut, I guarantee there's no false start on that play. Even if no gain we get a chip shot field goal. Safe and smart play. Good defenses LOVE 3rd and longs at the goal line.
     
  7. Demosthenes9

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    It might be the first time that we used Tebow that often at QB, but it's not the first time we have used Tebow at QB. It would be different if you could point to false starts in every game when Tebow has been at QB. You can't. It hasn't happened. Additionally, it's actually kind of foolish to sit here and "guarantee" that there wouldn't have been a false start if Tebow hadn't been in there.

    Perhaps the lack of trust is because just earlier on the first drive, we had 4th and 1 and ended up turning the ball over when Greene got stopped for a loss ?
     
  8. fansince90

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    the organization sucks for choosing him.
     
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    comon , everybody was so impressed by his accountability talk in the preseason.
     
  10. Barcs

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    I can't guarantee it, but 90% chance it doesn't happen. There was no reason to even swap personnel at that point. Without that the continuity is not disrupted and we can pound it quickly up the middle for a quick TD before the defense even gets set. It was poor play calling and Keller getting confused. I'm not blaming Tebow. I'm saying it doesn't help to swap QBs that often and makes the players have to adjust to a different guy at the helm with different reads, different calls, etc etc. It's not necessary. Bring Tebow in for the 2nd down with 2 yards to go. Not the 3rd and 1.
     
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  11. ekaarons

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    sparano

    it's time to get rid of this guy.what did the jets see in this guy.he was a loser with the dolphins and he is a loser with the jets.I really question the decisions by the jets front office.
     
  12. Demosthenes9

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    Oh god, please. The only problem on that play was that Keller couldn't remember the snap count apparently and got flagged for a false start.

    Again, it would be different if this happened all the time when Tebow comes in, but it doesn't.

    the situation was 3rd and goal from the 1. Even a lot of the most severe Tebow critics here agree that this is the perfect time for Tebow. Give him the rock and let him pound it in.
     
  13. JETFIGHTERS

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    Yep.......
     
  14. Sparano is an execution style coach. He stresses technique & playing to your strengths.You don't get a complex offensive playbook. It's designed for teams that have a good skill group & running game. In other words a talented one. Jets don't have players that can win the 1 on 1 battles consistently.
     
  15. Hobbes3259

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    No OL 8 guys in the box?
     
  16. Demosthenes9

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    Thing is, most "talented" running teams that I am aware of don't do straight ahead, man on man blocking. They make use of angles, down blocking, pulling, trapping, whamming, yada, yada, yada. We do that very rarely it seems. Usually, it's just vanilla, straight ahead blocking.
     
  17. You can win w/ that style if you have the right kind of O-line. You need guys w/ good short area explosion who can get off the ball quickly. When working properly you get a great push off the line, & it wears down a defense quickly. You gotta have the horses up front to do that though.
     
  18. Demosthenes9

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    Really ? With just straight ahead blocking ? How are holes created? I mean, say Mangold and Moore push their guys back 2 yards. LB still comes up and plugs the gap, that's a 2-3 yard gain for Greene.

    When you look at the teams that have a high YPC, most of them employ a more sophisticated running game. I honestly can't recall seeing us run trap or counter plays this year, and that's "how to run the football 101" stuff.
     
  19. JetsVilma28

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    I thought over the summer there was a video of 3rd and goals where Rex pulled Tebow (in his red jersey) aside speaking to the defense, "He is live, you can hit him." In this video, Tebow scored on every try.
     
  20. Jersey Joe 67

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    Sparano is t total disaster from top to bottom and proof that, not only does Rex not know how to build a team, but he also has no idea how to build a coaching staff.
     

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