Having Tebow jog out on to the field once in a while isn't fooling anybody. I thought the original idea was to have Sanchez and Tebow on the field at the same time to confuse the defense, what happened to that? They're not using Tebow or Sanchez correctly. All they do is have Tebow make an appearance rather than actually contributing. He should be on the field for 75% of the plays with Sanchez at the QB spot. This would confuse the defense and divert some of the pass rush to Tebow. Also Tebow could be used as an RB and even catch a few short passes out of the backfield. They simply are not getting the most out of a very talented player.
You know this would mean that there is either one less blocking(well he may be better than Hilliard) or receiving option right. We can't continue to use the system we've been using, it's not fooling anyone and it doesn't work for shit. There is no rhythm in our offense and there will never be if we continue to use Tebow the way SparSUCKO uses him. One is a starter the other is a backup. Has anyone thought about this what if Tebow gets knocked the fuck out on a running play, special teams or something then Sanchez goes down one play later what happens then? Yeah chances are that doesn't happen but what if. This is the NFL and no other team is doing this crap but us and we can't even get it right.
I think it's a bad idea, because then you are relying on deception and trickery as your main strategy to win. I absolutely think that you should incorporate deception into your game plan, but the priority should be execution and limiting turnovers. I think that is a main problem with the Jets this year. Trying to outsmart everyone, but it's not working.
The whole thing is a clusterfuck. Sparano is an idiot, but most of us knew this after his stint with the dolphins
I thought when we acquired tebow he'd be a weapon for us but I was wrong. Sanchez is struggling but any time he gets any rhythm Tebow trots in and takes it away. It's not fair to have 2 downs to get 1st downs especially when every time Tim comes in he's getting 2 yards a pop.
Well who's fault is that? I'd say their jackass O-cordinator and ultimately REX for not calling him out on it.
He was used on 5 plays yesterday. Two resulted in first owns and a third resulted in a first down right after . What momentum killer are you talking about ?
If you have 2 Quarterbacks, you have NO Quarterbacks. That piece of football wisdom apparently was lost on Rex and his Genius OC Sparano who sucked with only ONE Qb in Miami. This is what happens when your HC doesn't have a fckn clue what makes a modern NFL Offensive system work. He sees and agrees with what he's used to. That would be the antiquated "Ground and Pound" days of yore. Everytime Rex says he's gonna get more involved with the offense, I cringe. Why? Because involving Rex on offense is like having Mr. Magoo do Lasik surgery. Something you really don't want to happen.. Ever.....
The Tebow experiment is an utter failure. They failed once again to bring in a true backup QB. When Tebow comes out on the field it seems like every one is surprised by it - 2 false starts and a time out yesterday. That is like 5 time outs this season when Tebow has run onto the field. The false start by Keller led to an INT. If you kept in Sanchez and just ran Greene who is perfect on 3rd 1 this season you would have been fine. You can't have them on the field at the same time because no one is going to look to Tebow as a threat to catch the ball and you have to pull a weapon off the field to allow him on. The Jets are so void of offensive weapons you can't have Tebow take up a spot. When all is said and done they Jets are a good average team -- they have a good enough defense to shut down some offense and can do enough on offense against lower tier defenses to give you hope. Against physical defenses they just don't have any real weapons to compete.
this is just factually incorrect. sanchez qb rating when coming in after a tebow play is like 20 points higher then his qb rating overall.
I think that number is still inflated from week one...yesterday after the nice pass to Keller for 20+ yards they brought in Tebow and Sanchez looked pissed on the sideline. I think it is now causing him to force more things thinking OK if I don't make a big play here I have to run off the fucking field again.
If Drew Stanton was the backup QB he'd be on the field by now and Sanchez on the bench. Rex and Sparano are terrified of handing the team over to a guy who cannot throw the football well. They're so terrified of doing this that they're allowing their starter, who is having about the worst year he could have, to stay on the field much longer than any other backup would have allowed.
gaining 5 yds when we need 8 to get a 1st down doesn't impress me, it gives Mark 2 plays to gain 10 yds. The Tebow package has been a killer for our offense this season.
Tebow shotgun run up the middle for a two yard gain and a cloud of dust, the funny thing is when the situation calls for Tebow and his 2 yards and bundle of dust routine we run Hilliard to the outside or throw the fucking ball.
You said it was " killer for the offense " Listen I don't agree , I believe it's inconsequential. I'll continue this discussion in the Tebowmania thread we are already discussing it in and this will be my final reply here .
But deception and trickery is how our defense plays EVERY DOWN, with pretty good success. Disguised coverages, corner blitz, etc. And using deception and trickery on the offense is the opposite of having a predictable offense we all hate, especially when we can all call the plays before they're even run. Perhaps some good ol fashion deception and trickery on offense is just what we need.
We don't know if the Sanchez-Tebow combo would work because they never do it. Instead the keep on interchanging the two and it's confusing. I personally feel that it would work very well if Tebow actually caught a few passes out of the backfield or ripped off a few runs then threw a few passes. In other words you have get him doing a few thing successfully so the defense has to account for him, and the jets just aren't doing that. Tebow could be a weapon but you have to make him one and not just put him out the for advertising purposes.
Is there an option were we don't play either of them? At this point I'd rather see what Timmy can do, I already know what Mark can do...not a lot.
