Brass Tacks on Tebow....

Agreed. I've been saying he should be in on more snaps and all over the formation, especially at the TE position. I think he would make a great addition to Keller in 2 or 3 TE sets. He's built like a TE and him catching a ball or two this season from Mark out of TE or WR position would back up the opposing D quite a bit.

 

They need to use him more and more effectively.

ENOUGH of bringing him into the middle of a successful drive, unless said drive is within 10 yards of the goal-line.

ENOUGH of bringing him in for one damn play and taking him out. Give him a steady 3-5 plays in a row.

ENOUGH of just him taking the handoff and diving into the pile for 3-4 yards. Run some sweeps with receivers (Kerley, J.Hill) or Joe McKnight. Use those speedy or shifty threats and either hand the ball off to them or have Tebow at least fake it to them.

And finally, let the man throw. His arm is not THAT bad. He is not THAT inaccurate. He CAN make throws.

He is NOT a TE. He is NOT a pass rusher. I understand some people want to see him in those positions, but he has never played them in his life. Having him out there is like having 10 players on the field.

They just don't know how to use him and if you're not going to use him in a way that helps the team then they should be on the phone with Jacksonville and complete a trade in the next seven days. With Gabbert and MJD down, the time is now.

 

The Jets coaching staff is currently using Tebow in the way least likely to create a circus atmosphere around the team. It's unfortunate that they're giving away competitive advantage in the process however it's understandable that they do not want Tebow's performance to force their hand at the QB position.

I've been wondering for a couple of weeks now whether or not the way Tebow was being used was an attempt by Rex and Sparano to send a message to somebody. They clearly are not giving him more than token snaps with the offense and they are not allowing him to have any continuity there at all. He goes into the game for a snap or two and then he's done for the night and the snaps are seemingly random in terms of timing.

The question I can't quite figure out the answer to is: who are Rex and Sparano sending a message too?

Mark Sanchez?

Doesn't seem likely. If they really wanted to send a message to Sanchez they'd give Tebow more snaps and even the occasional series after a bad sequence by Sanchez. The other way of using the backup QB to send a message to a sputtering starter is time-honored: bench him and let the backup guy have his job for a bit. The Jets aren't doing that.

Woody Johnson?

This line of thought would be that Rex really resents having this circus foisted off on him after the locker room issues last year. Just what the doctor ordered for you Mr Ryan, a QB controversy after the locker room apparently fractured last season!

The problem with that line of thought is that Woody Johnson is the boss and the boss usually responds to passive/aggressive messages of this sort by giving much shorter and more succinct ones that lead to the unemployment line. No, it's not Woody that Rex and Sparano are sending a message to.

Mike Tannenbaum?

Not. Even if you think Tebow was Tanny's idea, which is kind of ludicrous on the face of it given his investment in Sanchez, it makes no sense to use Tebow's playing time as a wedge against a GM who probably is going to share your success or your failure in equal proportions.

Tim Tebow?

The guy wants to play and he's getting very few snaps. He's not a very good passing QB as evidenced by his performance in bad circumstances in camp. He's clearly not as good a passer as Sanchez whatever else you think about their leadership or intangibles. But he's a helluva player. It would be great to get him on the field for more snaps and fully committed, at a position other than QB.

I think Tebow is the guy Rex and Sparano are sending a message too. They've given him a few looks at H-back. They've talked about running back. They'd probably *love* to have him play fullback, since he'd be the most dynamic threat there since Mike Alstott. The only leverage they have on him though is the number of snaps he gets each game. And they cant be seen to be forcing him to play another position because that would cause big issues.

Earth to Tim Tebow, this is Rex calling: want to play some football for me?

 

Nothing else really needs to be said.

Although I do not completely agree with the entire premise this is one of the most intelligent post I have read on the subject.

Its definitely a possibility.

 

This would be cool.

This is what we expected when Tebow came to NY.

This is not what we've gotten.

 

His rookie season he was Denver's goal line specialist. Until his three starts at the end of the year - goal line work was about all he did. It was a highly effective use and he almost always scored - even with a pass.

It has baffled me he is getting almost no work in the red zone especially inside the 10. He has a highly successful track record in close.

There are a number of reasons the play calling when they do use him is awful. His value is the benefit of numbers defenses have to account for. With Sanchez flanked out the play is almost designed to take away that advantage. Could they surprise everyone and have Sanchez go across the middle for a pass? Not likely. The play negates the advantage. At least with a receiver out there the defense has to be paying attention.

It is pretty clear the Jets have no intention to use Tebow and there never was a Tebow package. We are almost half way into the season and no one has seen a package.

The talk about Tebow moving positions is just noise to me. It is the freaking NFL and there are specialist at each positions but people think he can just move to a new position and be very good? Besides how many QBs went 9-7 in their first 16 games with a playoff win and were considered a wash at QB without any additional opportunities? Especially on a team that was 4-14 when he didn't start?

 

Well said. They are wasting plays with this gimicky garbage they are pulling. I understand the coaches are in a tough spot, but I think they did Tebow a favor by leaving him out of the 2nd half. Had he tried and failed on some runs or passes, it would have been bad for him as well as the coaches.

 

Very intriguing theory, but would Rex be that subtle about it?
I think Tebow will be traded at the end of the season by mutual consent of both parties. Just hope somebody wants him.

 

Rex has to be subtle. He can't be the guy who ruined Tim Tebow. Nobody can be that guy.

It's always possible that the Jets are using Tebow as the H-back now and then just to get him on the field however it's just as likely that they are slowly acclimating him to being on the field in a role other than the QB.

Who is going to give Tebow a shot as a starting QB next season when he could not beat out a thoroughly beatable Mark Sanchez?

That question has to be on the mind of Tebow and his agents.

I'm not saying this to be disrespectful but Tebow's best shot at a starting QB position next year is probably in the CFL. Does he really want to go to the CFL for a year or two to build up his bonafides to come back and try to get a legitimate shot in the NFL?

He's in position in a high profile location with a very shaky starting QB and he can't get on the field. That's got to be in the decision making process for him at this point. Sometimes the bigger plan is not the one you wanted at the start.

 

I mentioned the CFL a few weeks ago. If you wanted to increase the exposure of your league, who better to bring in than Tebow? He could make more money and you would probably see the CFL in syndication in America in a couple years.

Tebow is never going to beat out any QB on the practice field, he just doesn't have the passing skill, but it's 50-50 on the game field.

 

I think the idea that he was brought here just to be a wildcat appears suspect. I think he was brought here as the backup plan in case Mark Sanchez didn't progress. And the wildcat was an additional justification that could sit well with Sanchez.

 

This is one of the most intelligent threads about Tebow that I've ever read. I agree with most of the posts in this thread. BroadwaySux, how ... Machiavellian. I don't know why I've never thought about it in that way. I'm still digesting that line of thought.

As far as Rex not playing Tebow to avoid a circus .... LOLOLOL at the thought of Rex avoiding publicity of any kind!

I, too, am very puzzled as to why Tebow's not being used to his full abilities as backup QB. That in and of itself is a circus sideshow.

 

a la Doug Flutie, Joe Theismann, and Jeff Garcia to name a few. I've thought about the CFL as well if he doesn't get a chance here. I just keep wishing he'll get a chance here.

 

I think you're underselling Rex on the Woody point. Rex might be stubborn enough to do this to send a message to Woody. Although the Tebow point is a valid one. He can't be the one that turned Tebow away from QB, but if Tebow is not seeing the field as a QB he has to do other stuff to get out there. Tebow has always said his goal is to be a QB so that would be an interesting battle. Tebow can't go out and complain because that goes against everything he has done in the pas, and Rex can't go out and force the change due to same media influenced reasons

 

Tebow was never going to start over Sanchez no matter his performance. That wasn't why he was brought here. Rex wants to avoid a "circus" but what happens if Sanchez crashes and burns and he sticks to his guns with Sanchez? Doesn't that make Rex's stock crash as a potential coach elsewhere?

Someone will take a chance on Tebow. Anyone can see he was duped and put in a bad situation where he was never allowed to succeed.

 

Interesting theories in your first post, but you left out some possibilities and now you've completely jumped the shark.

By trading up to take Sanchez, by signing him to that lucrative contract, and by extended that contract this past offseason, Rex and company went "all in" on Sanchez and they will ride with that until either Sanchez finally steps up, he reaches the end of his contract, or Rex and company get axed by Woody.

You had all the talk about Sanchez being coddled. Tebow was a way to try and light a fire under Mark, to force him to compete, without being directly threatened. Problem was, it didn't matter how poorly Mark played in the preseason or camp, he was never in danger of losing his job. I'm pretty sure that even he is smart enough to realize that.

Think about how many times Rex reiterated that Mark was the starting QB. The coaching staff made sure that there never was any real QB controversy, that it was all media driven. Compare Mark's situation to what occurred out in AZ or in Seattle, where they actually had open competition for the starter position.

So, what happens if Sparano gives Tebow a whole series and he gains 34 yards ? Part of it through the air on a nice 8 yard pass, the other 26 yards coming on an Option run or off a nice scramble ??? Does Sparano pull him and put Sanchez back in ? Do you leave Tim in and strangely almost hope that he doesn't drive the team down the field and score a TD as you'll then have to make a really difficult decision ?

I look at the short yardage goal line situations and that gives me the answer right there. What was it ? 3rd and 1 from the 3 ? Rex can "send a message" to Tebow by putting him in at RB and having Sanchez hand him the ball to punch in for a TD. Tebow gets TD as RB, Tebow thinks "hey, maybe I should play RB".

But did they do that ? Nope. Ask yourself why ? Why wouldn't you go with your best short yardage option in that situation, unless of course, actually getting the first down and scoring a TD would cause you some kind of headache.

At this point, I'm pretty well convinced that Rex and company are so invested in Mark, that they won't risk allowing Tebow to be successful, as it might force them to make a decision that they don't want to make.

 

Jumped the shark!!!
I can't stop laughing! Alot of the readers might be too young to appreciate this.

I agree with you Demos, he made it seem more sinister than it really is.

I think Rex and company are definitely managing Tebow in a way that keeps the peasants in check.

Still Laughing!