We invested so much in Mark Sanchez when we traded up for him, this front office failed. Give the damn kid a Running back. How are we supposed to control games without getting first downs? The opposing teams offenses are getting many more possesions than they did in 2009. All we needed was a serviceable Running Back and Tanny couldnt find it. A runningback would have made it easier to control game and play the low scoring games with less possesions and it would be more about defense. Most of all though, it would have gotten the best out of our QB. Mark strives with a run game, it just boggles my mind we couldnt find one... Their wouldve been so many benefits, -control the clock -much better QB play -low scoring tighter games -defense would get more time to rest -less possesions so the defense isnt on the field as long either Such a fucking joke, id trade our entire 2012 draft right now for Trent Richardson. There were rumors the Jets were going to make a move for him, and I really wish they would have....
They have been so bent on being ground and pound it has hurt them. The have failed to upgrade team speed, line backers, wide receiver depth, running back, never replaced LT...you bring in Tebow to help in the running game and don't use him. Take his plays away and give them to mcknight.
no he is not great, but like any of the other QBs in the league he would benefit greately from a good run game
This last game he was missing wide open receivers, he had time, receivers got separation, Mark just couldn't come close to delivering them the ball. Sanchez has 49% completion %, 49% by far the worst in the NFL, it will take a lot more than a running game to fix his problems, they should start at a psychiatrist the way he loses confidence and pouts when things get tough.
At a certain point the QB has to bear some of the responsibility. With Sanchez it's always he needs a running back, he needs a top flight o-line, he needs 4 playmaking receivers, he needs a pass catching tight end, etc. At what point do we say that Steven Hill has a ton of potential but needs an accurate QB? Or that the offensive line is good but needs Sanchez to get rid of the ball when he's supposed to?
Take shady from Vick, take Rice from Flacco, take Foster from Schaub, take Gore from Alex Smith, I bet all of them struggle a lot more. I give blame to Sanchez but you DONT need an elite QB to win. Mark will never be Peyton or Brady, but he can be Flacco or even Alex Smith. Hell Sanchez was Alex Smith his first 2 years and it was a winning formula, a championship formula.
Who was the last QB not in the discussion for top 8-10 in the league to win a Super Bowl? In the last 20 years you can count 2, Brad Johnson in '03 & Dilfer in '01. Both of those guys were also before all the rule changes making the league a lot more passing friendly. In 2012 and beyond, bottom line is you don't win championships in-spite of your QB.
Yeah you kind of do, let's take a look at the last 20 SB winning QB's: Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman Super Bowl 29. Steve Young Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre Super Bowl 32. John Elway Super Bowl 33. John Elway Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning And Championship formula? The Jets don't have a recent championship that I can remember.
While I would agree there are better RBs it's simplistic to put our running woes all on Greene. Ppl were crying for Powel (sp?) Now that we've seen him our ferver has cooled. The problem has more to do with the blocking and lack of skill and execution of the offense in general. If you want to know what it takes to run the ball just watch the 49ers game. Not only do they have an all star RB they have a dominant line and is well coached. Greene is similar to Sanchez, average at their position good enough to get you to the playoffs on a good team.
True but you also gotta look at the past. We had a top 3 D and a very good/great running game and he still struggled more times then not, but i do agree we need a play making running back and improve this shitty run game.
I wish we got Cedric Benson this offseason!! As soon as i seen him as a free agent i don't know why tannybum didn't do anything. He went to the packers for CHEAP! Our running game would look pretty nice with Shonn Greene complimenting him! smh ONLY IF..
What the hell? 1. Ground and pound, eh? So they neglect the OL depth like they have? WFH ring a bell for ya? 2. Where is the stud RB for the ground and pound attack? 3. It's a classic saying-one-thing, then doing-quite-the-opposite. Ground-and-pound my ass. After Thomas Jones was gone, this team didn't have the back to grind the yards out. After Faneca was gone, they replaced LG with a fucking 6th rounder back up. It's a wonder that he is still performing at slightly below average level. And they picked a fucking PROJECT with 2nd round pick. Are they fucking stupid? Jets are NOT one of these teams that can shelf the 2nd round pick in the squad and raise for 5 years. Jets need immediate starters from first three rounds. 4. Jets had only one deep threat - that was Braylon Edwards. He helped stretching the defense. With Cotchery in the WR corps, they couldn't cheat up - or Cotchery would burn them. So who do T-Bomb get? Santonio Holmes. Cotchery with less hands, and more speed. He still needed Braylon Edwards to be remotely functional. Now... when the time came, this FO let go Braylon, released Cotchery and gave monster contract to Holmes. Exactly the kind of recipe to replicate Ground-and-pound success. Eh? We all saw how it played out last year - without a single deep threat, the run game sputtered as well. AND Sanchez was under pressure all season long. 5. Don't even get me started on the defense. Drafting a nickel with 1st round pick? Even in pass-happy league, that defies logic. You want STARTER with 1st/2nd/3rd round pick. Ok? Colossal brainfuck, to say the very least. And the LB corp has been neglected for years. Sure, DL was addressed - will remain a strength for some time. But with these gaping holes, T-Bomb had the nerve to trade picks away. Way to go, to build a winning franchise.
At least now I know someone sees it as I do. We should try to make a move on Ryan Mathews on the Chargers. They don't seem very pleased with him, we might be able to slim his fumbles some way, and he has the potential to be great.
enough with all the fucking apologies for his shitty play. When we had a running game, he still sucked! When we had 3 very good receivers, he still turned the ball over and was inaccurate. He's not very good, stop blaming everyone but the QB. The FO is not a joke, the Sanchez apologists are.
http://www.nfl.com/player/braylonedwards/2506342/profile = Yeah the answer to our prayers http://www.nfl.com/player/stephenhill/2533537/profile = Hill, is a rookie. Bigger, Faster, but needs to hit the Juggs gun. Wilson was drafted to be our #2, and then we got Cro.
Where was Hill two years ago? And drafting Wilson then signing Cro makes perfect sense for you? Jesus, what a genius you are.
A better RB won't do shit if the line can't consistently block for him. Still trying to figure out if it's personnel, blocking schemes or a combination of both, but our line just doesn't open up holes with any consistency.
You forgot Big Ben, Brady, and Eli were not top 10 QBs for their FIRST Super Bowl. Eli was on the brink of top ten before his second Super Bowl run which sealed it. I understand your argument but it annoys me when everyone forgets those 3 QBs were not great when they won their first Super Bowl.
Bens not elite. He was just on the right team at the right time. The only case for him being elite is because he won twice. Ben aint winning anywhere else. If Mark or Joe was on the Steelers they would have a ring or 2 also. Only 4 guys can carry a garbage team. Thats Brees Brady Peyton and Rodgers. The rest need help like it or not.
