What? that is simply not accurate. lets take a look at pittsburgs drives, and what "tough situations" the D was put in. Drive 1: Steelers get the ball at their own 20 on the opening kickoff of the game, drive 55 yards and get a FG. There was nothing the jets offense could have done to prevent that. Tough situation = No. [opening drive] Drive 2: Steelers get the ball at their own 25 yardline. again they drive 9 plays for another field goal. The jets offense had just gone on a 90 yard touchdown drive and given the defense a 7-3 lead. Tough situation = no. [they had the lead and field position on their side] Drive 3: steelers ball at their own 19 off of another jets kickoff. the jets had just gone on a 12 play drive, ending in a field goal, given their defense a 10-6 lead. tough situation = no. [had the lead and field position] Drive 4: steelers ball at their own 20 yard line. they drive 80 yards for a touchdown right before the half, taking a 13-10 lead. The jets offense had just gone 3 and out. when the steelers got the ball, the jets were ahead in time of possesion. tough situation = no. [they had field position, the lead, and the jets D couldnt have been worn out being on the field just 12 minutes to that point] Drive 5: Steelers ball at their own 40. they drive 60 yards for the touchdown to take a 20-10 lead. the jets offense had just gone on a 6 play 4 minute drive to start the half. tough situation = kinda [jets D had all half + 4 minutes to rest, but the jets did surrend field position.] Drive 6: Steelers start with the ball on their own 4 yardline and drive 53 yards before punting and givign field position back after the jets went on a 5 play 30 yard drive. tough situation = no. [jets regained field position and had pitt backed inside their own 5.] Drive 7: Pitt ball at their 49 yardline. they go 3 and out and punt. the jets had just a 4 play drive, but they also started the drive at their own 5 yardline backed way up. tough situation = yes [steelers had great field position] Drive 8: Steelers ball at their own 25 yardline. they go on a 14 play 10 minute drive capped with a touchdown to seal the game. jets had just gone 3 and out. tough situation = no [pitt not in good field position and jets were ahead in T.O.P. at this point] Drive 9: pitt ball at their own 38 yardline. jets had just gone 3 and out again. tough situation = doesnt matter [game was over at this point with 1 minute left to play] As you can see(and if you watched the game it should have been obvious) the jets defense was absolutely NOT put in tough situation after tough situation. the 5 of pittsburgs first 7 drives started deep in their own territory. the jets were ahead in time off possesion through 3 quarters. pittsburg never started a drive inside jets territory, and their only truly great field position was because of the fumbled punt, not the offense. So to recap: -Jets D wasnt put in tough field position(steelers avg starting field position was their own 26 yardline -Jets D wasnt forced to come in after turnovers(jets offense 0 turnovers) -Jets D wasnt being forced to play to much because jets O couldnt stay on the field(Jets lead in time of possesion going into the 4th quarter before the jets D allowed the 10 minute drive) -Jets D wasnt forced to play from behind all game(jets offense reclaimed the lead on a 90 yard drive, then gave the team a 10-6 lead late in the first half. now, im not saying the jets offense played well, or put the D in great situations, but to say the jets D face tough situations all game is just false.
The jets had 3 first half possesions, scored on 2 of them, gained 155 yards, 8 first downs, and were in pittsburg territory on all 3 drives. i would say they moved the ball pretty well.
the only people who think I make zero sense are the same ones making completely false claims like the Jets defense only gave up points because the Jets offense continually went 3 and out, which has already been proven false.
The Jets are supposedly "championship contenders", no? In that case, they should beat a good team on the road. Right now they look like a middle of the road "bully" team that beats up lesser teams but wilts in the face of quality opposition. If they are champion qmaterial, let's see it.
Get hot when it counts. It's not like we lost to the Bills at home. It was the steelers on the road coming off 0-1 record. This was a tough game to steal. We had plenty of opportunities, but they were all dropped. Lick your wounds from a tough loss and get ready for next week.
^ well said. And the Pats lost too. But the Jets can't keep squandering away every opportunity to jump ahead of the Pats when they present themselves.
Bottom Line - If you can't tackle or give up first down on 3rd and long you are NOT going to win period. Nobody wants to hear and I really don't want to sat it but it is the hard truth, sorry
Bettter as in score points? Agreed. We need the defense and special teams to start scoring some points. Because our O sucks.
The Patriots are supposedly championship contenders, no? In that case they should beat an average team at home. (Cardinals) The Giants are supposedly championship contenders, no? In that case they should beat an average/good team at home. (Cowboys) The Ravens are supposedly championship contenders, no? In that case they should beat an average/good team on the road. (Eagles) The Steelers are supposedly championship contenders, no? In that case they should beat a good team on the road. (Broncos) The Packers are supposedly championship contenders, no? In that case they should beat a good team on the road. (49ers) Just saying... The Jets are never a bully. They rarely beat up on below average teams. In fact they usually play to their level and almost lost them or lose them. They also never blow out teams like they did to Buffalo. That rarely happens. So your whole post seems to be based on two games on 16 game season. Ok.
Pitt scored points on 3 of their first 4 drives.Are you paying attention? These " D was gassed" bullshit is just that, bullshit.
Isn't the bottom line at this point that Rex has had three years to build a defense that Rivals the Ravens D and he hasn't even come close to doing so? Our D is shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with any of Rex's defenses in Balt.
I chalk this up to the Steelers offense being that much better, and as bad as the defense looked, they were able to keep the game within striking distance at 20-10 Steelers. The offense couldn't score in the 2nd half.
the offense sucked, but the defense giving up points on 4 of the first 5 possessions isn't the defense keeping it close. giving up points on 80% of the possession is the opposite of keeping a game close. keeping the game close inherently requires the defense stopping the opponent from scoring.
Rex is learning that having great players in the middle of the field, like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, is more important than having great edge players. He's learning this the hard way as his defenses get soft in crunch time instead of stiffening. He's a smart guy. He'll figure it out in the end if he gets to stick around.
Im not sure it can be. We have no edge rushers really, no one who can cover TEs and slot receivers. We are very weak on 3rd down and fitness seems to be an issue again. We are not fundamentally sound in tackling.
Agree with your points here. Think part of the frustration we're seeing now is that fans set the bar high unrealistically high based on week #1. The crash back to reality can be painful at first and this forum is a place to vent just as much as it is a place to have meaningful discussion. Jets D can improve but they're some weaknesses on this roster which can't be covered up with work ethic or smarter play. LB core is slow & can't set the edge. Rex hope was to sandwich them between a great secondary and young talented DL. Safeties are nothing to brag about when it comes to pass coverage. LB core is very capable of stopping runs up the middle though so they can be productive against certain plays. Defensive weaknesses we saw coming into this season: - Can't contain the edge & vulnerable to quick/shifty RB. - Safety/LB are not good in pass coverage which means Jets haven't addressed the dreaded TE position from opposition. - Unable to get consistent pass rush without blitzing (this one might improve though as the young guys on DL keep improving). - Age/Injuries at the safety positions (Jets gambling here that they avoid big injuries this season with injury-prone players) Jets D is good but not elite/great. There's going to be games this season where they need major help from the offense. Luckily not every offense they face will be able to exploit the Jets weaknesses. Which is why I'm still seeing them as having a shot at 9 wins this season.
It sucks that the Jets probably need to dedicate more time in practice on the fundamentals so early in the season but it seems it needs to be done. That was some bad fucking tackling Sunday. I'm not terribly worried about the defense just yet, they were in place to make several big plays but couldn't finish the play. Hoping they bounce back vs Miami
Two words: Ben fucking Roethlisberger. Jets get a third that much pressure on Brady and they'll cook the Patriots. Can't wait.
Not just Brady but most QB's in the league. It was certainly frustrating to watch but if we can get that same pressure in our coming games and stop the run the way we did early in the game the defense will be fine.
