Even though, as everyone knows, Option football won't work in the NFL (This can be either in a sub-package, such as the WC, or in the course of their "base" offense") 1. Jets 2. 49'ers 3. Panthers 4. Redskins 5. Dolphins 6. Bills 7. Eagles
IMO, not really. Single wing is not an Option attack, even if you include a hand off (or fake) for a jet sweep. Option involves leaving specific defenders unblocked, "reading" them, and deciding what to do based on what the "read" defender does.
Come back to me at the end of the season and tell me how many of those teams actually ran single wing and how many ran the college style option, and I guarantee it will be half the number you have predicted up there.
I'm predicting now that every team listed will run some actual Option plays, not just single wing plays. Read Option will be the flavor of choice for most of them, while some teams (the Jets hopefully) will go further down the rabbit hole. Not saying that it will be a huge part of their offense, but it will be thrown in from time to time and it will be largely successful.
I don't see it. Those teams that you listed may run a few option plays during 2012, but teams run what is successful with consistency, at least the smart teams do. If it is realistically successful, they will continue to use it. And how many attempts during a season qualifies as a team seriously using the option play for anything other than an experimental change of pace gadget? 5? 10? 1?
Don't know that I can quantify the way you are wanting me to. Take Washington and RG3 for example, I think they will run some Option with him. Perhaps some Read Option, or Speed Option, or maybe some Double Option with a pitch man trailing and someone there for a shovel pass. They might run Option once per game in a certain situation, or they might run it 10-15 times per game. Kind of hard to predict. I think Miami will be the same way with Tannehill, SF the same with Smith and Kapaernik (sp?). Think Buffalo will expand on the "traditional" WC and add Option plays in with it. Eagles might run some, but then again, they might be gunshy with Vick. Guess it depends on just how super his "you can't hurt me" flak jacket is. And of course, Cam and Tebow will both be running it, at least I hope Sparano incorporates it into our WC.
So, your basic premise for this thread is that teams will use some minor wrinkle of option in their offense at random times? That's really not a bold prediction. I've already seen the Eagles use it with Vick a few times and the same with Newton and the Panthers. And I've even seen it used successfully. I'm not sure who said that the option, as a concept, would never work in the NFL in any respect, but that was ignorant and short-sighted. However, I don't think it will ever work as a base offensive philosophy.
Cam will use it a good bit. The main reason the read option is attractive at the pro level is that it provides an effective run action out of the shotgun. At one time, shotgun meant either pass play or draw (it was a clear pass look). But if incorporate the read option, then every shotgun formation with an RB next to the QB could be a run play, and pass plays can begin with a "play action" out of shotgun. You can still cut way down on the number of times your QB runs it by calling the play as a give multiple times.
Oh, and I'll add one more team to the list which will really draw your suspicion and doubt. 8. The New England Patriots. You might call foul on this one thought. What I'm referring to here is the thought that McDaniels and Satan will combine the package concept with the Zone read. Basically, Brady would be in the shotgun with a RB to his right or left. Ball would be snapped, RB goes to mesh point. Brady then reads the reaction of the LB. If he crashes down to stop the run, Brady pulls the ball and instead of running it, has a defined pass play. It would qualify as an "option" play as the QB would "read" the inside LB and adjust the play based on how the LB reacts.
Actually, most people I have heard this from were rather absolute in believing that guys in the NFL were too fast, and too well disciplined for the option to work at all. I've also seen the arguments people have put forth claiming that NFL coaches won't run option plays due to the risk of the QBs getting injured. What I'm saying is that you will see more teams running options plays this year, some more than others of course. And that next year, you'll see even more of it and that it will continue to proliferate. And yes, in time, you will see "base" offenses being pretty option heavy, with QBs running 10+ times per game. Might be something like Chip Kelley's Zone Read at Oregon. Or Rich Rod's version. Or Meyer's Spread Option. Coaches will of course put their own twists on these offenses and create their own flavors, just as they always have with any other type of offense.
New England is an anomaly, they try everything. I stopped being surprised when I saw Doug Flutie drop-kick a field goal for them half a decade ago. They will always be the exception, not the rule.
You're correct, there's been some pretty dogmatic insistence that you "never" do this in the pros, but you can see with your own eyes numerous teams are doing it. It's weird to hear someone insist it just isn't done, and then every Sunday you watch it being done (more and more). If done right, it can be similar to a naked bootleg keeper. Something done to take advantage of a quarterback good on his feet and keep the defense honest. But again, the advantage being it's run out of shotgun.
When OC's stop being open to abstract concepts, even when those abstract concepts are simplified college-style philosophies, they stop being effective coordinators. That doesn't mean they will abandon their base philosophies for these college-style offensive philosophies, however. The deck is stacked for pocket passers and will continue to be within the rule for the conceivable future. Options may be a way to exploit defenses selling out for the pocket passer philosophy, but it can only be a change of pace at this level. Think about this: In 2011, Mark Sanchez by many accounts had a bad season. And yet if you compare his 2011 stats to league QBs prior to 2009, he is a top 10 passer in many categories, including total yards and passing TDs. You only need to see the explosion of success for rookie QBs in the past couple of years to know that it's a passing QB's game. The option doesn't fit too well in that world.
If you say run it at times, I say more teams. I you mean primary component of offense regardless of gameplan, I say less teams
I don't know about any of this shit but I don't see Miami doing it. Then again, we may get desperate enough to after a couple bad losses
"simplified college-style philosophies" ? Abyz, I don't know if you have been watching or following college football in the last 20 years, but many offenses on that level are more complex that what NFL teams run. College and HS are the breeding grounds for new and insane ideas. It's where most the innovation comes from. Mark was considered to have had a bad season due to throwing too many picks that led to a losing season. In almost every other category, he actually improved from the previous year and his stats were fine. That being said, it's kind of a red herring anyways. Last season, Carolina ran an awful lot of "college style" offense and Cam put up stupid passing numbers. At some point, people are going to need to get it through their heads that using an Option attack DOES NOT MEAN that a team won't be throwing the ball quite a bit. Take RG3 at Baylor as an example. He threw for about 4300 yards, but he also ran the ball 120+ times for about 700 yards. I think people keep having this misconception that running the Option brings up memories of Nebraska running the ball 90% of the time and throwing a pass once or twice per half. That's just not the case.
Yep, it aids the running game when you are in the shotgun, but also, it adds that advantage for the offense. Think of this. Brady sitting back in the Shotgun. It's 2nd and 8. Call is a conventional "draw" from the shotgun. Ball is snapped, Brady sees that the DE is crashing down the line to stuff it, but he hands the ball off anyways as that is the play they are running. Run gets stuffed, it's 3rd and 7. Now, similar scenario with Cam. Still 2nd and 8. Ball is snapped. DE crashes down. Cam pulls the ball back from the mesh after "reading" the DE and takes off passed where the DE had been. Or, Cam sees that DE stays home, so he hands the ball off and RB has one less tackler to be concerned about. That's one of the things the Option does. It lets you read and react to the defense, and change the play accordingly. Instead of just handing to a back to plod ahead, QB has the option of keeping the ball and running it if he sees a seam
Well, Washington broke out with the Baylor Spread Option offense this past week and RGIII seems to have done ok with it http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-t...-using-rg3s-college-offense-with-the-redskins
