Have been asked a number of times why I do not like Tebow

Discussion in 'Tebowmania' started by reverseapachemaster, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    Physically, Brady and Manning have only 2 tools in their bag: their arms and their brains. Seems like having less tools has worked out well for them.
     
  2. Bannon

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    Why does the discussion always seem to come back to Tebow being compared to Brady, Manning, or Brees?

    Isn't the standard at this point something like Tarvaris Jackson, David Gerard, Josh Freeman, or perhaps Jake Locker or something?
     
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    They are also 2 of the best ever.

    No one with half a brain is trying to say that Tebow is anywhere near that good.
     
  4. The Uniform Bomber

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    Go down the list of successful QBs; most of them don't have many tools other than their arms and brains.
     
  5. SI_Jets_Fan

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    I do not watch college fb, and never saw Tebow at UF. if you say that he was "deadly accurate" and a "prolific passer" I will take that at face value. I have a question. Did he forget how to throw accurately? How does that work?
     
  6. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    No, neither he nor Phaytal can back that stat up, mainly because it just simply isn't true. Hell, Florida didn't even lead the nation in players drafted by the NFL over the span of 2007 - 2010 drafts (the 4 years Tebow was at UF).
     
  7. Demosthenes9

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    Actually, I think it has to do with the changes to his mechanics and that he hasn't burned those changes into muscle memory yet.

    Tebow was indeed "deadly accurate" but then again, he wasn't. What I mean is that he never had the accuracy that guys like Rodgers and Brady have, i.e. pinpoint precision passing. That said, he could hit receivers all over the field and did so week in and week out. Just as a comparison, here are some stats:

    At UF, Tebow had a career comp % of 66.4
    Peyton Manning's was 62.5
    Eli Manning's was 60.8
    Aaron Rodger's was 63.8

    Some of the knocks on Tebow prior to being drafted were that his throwing motion was too elongated and slow, and that while he was "deadly accurate" in college, the NFL has smaller/tighter passing windows that require even more accuracy. To address this, Tebow has changed and is still in the process of changing his mechanics.
     
  8. sg3

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    To address this, Tebow has changed and is still in the process of changing his mechanics.

    Saint Timmy hasn't changed those awful passing mechanics a whit because 1) they are unchangeably BAD, 2)the only guy who thought they could be changed is dead and 3) the only other chance of them improving is you and your adoring Te-boneheads praying for some sort of faith healing at your weekly visit with Jimmy Swaggart or some other sort of money grubbing con-man
     
  9. SI_Jets_Fan

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    If he was "deadly accurate", why would he change his mechanics? Philip Rivers has the weirdest delivery I have ever seen. He did not change. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

    Maybe deadly accurate for college ball is different than deadly accurate in the pros.
     
  10. SI_Jets_Fan

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    hahaha... U mad, bro?
     
  11. Backup QB

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    His mechanics do not need to be changed. It is not the prettiest throwing motion, but neither was Reggie Miller's jump shot. His arm is strong and he can make any throw. What he needs is to get comfortable in the offense to gain more consistency passing, while also being given an offense that plays to his strengths. Denver ran a ridiculous offense last year that did not resemble anything I saw Tebow run in college. Tommie Frazier or Kevin Frost may have done well in Denver's offense last year.
     
  12. cval

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    He was the exact same player in college. He played in the spread and did not have to read defences. His receivers were wide open or he ran

    Demo and backup thinks this tranlates into the nfl typical gator fans. Ignorant about pro football but not afraid to talk.
     
  13. cval

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    Go back and read i did reply. The first was not an out but a comeback very different. The second was a horrible throw

    I do question your football knowledge because you arguments are very naive. If he can only throw better.

    There have been a ton of Qbs that are runners if they can only throw better. Some get chances in the NFl most dont. Tebow is not unique or different he comes from a long line of running Qbs that cant throw.

    He doesnt even run as well Brad Smith.
     
  14. cval

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    They had to build the offense on the fly because Tebow could not a run a traditional offense. There is no way around that fact.
     
  15. cval

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    You are just plain wrong. Did you ever hear of Randall Cunnigham or Steve Young? What about Tarkington or Bobby Douglas (Tebow before Tebow). To compare Cam to Tebow is not very fair to Cam he has already proven he can read defences and throw from the pocket. He threw for over 4000 yds as a rookie what did tebow throw for

    Lets not forget Qbs Mcnabb or Mcnair but you are right tebow is the first. The problem with running Qbs is there aer a lot of young ones but no old ones. Learn to be a pocket passer or not play Qb in the nfl.

    Again the ignorance

    The problem with Tebow he is a one trick pony. He does not have enough in his tool bag to be a passer he is a runner. Most Qbs do not get the chance to change their mechanics as much as tebow needs to in the pros . This is not pee wee or Hs. His mechanics will not
    change ever hear of the 10000 hr rule.?
     
  16. Backup QB

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    Tebow is not a running QB.
     
  17. sg3

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    correct

    Tebow isn't an NFL QB by any stretch of the imagination except in the brainwashed minds of his evangelical Te-bonehead followers


    hopefully he will be a decent fullback/punt protector for the Jets and PLEASE GOD keep Mark Sanchez healthy so that the season doesn't go down the Tebow toilet of unfixable passing mechanics
     
  18. sg3

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    summary

    Timmy as an NFL QB

    SUCKS


    can't be fixed


    as poor Mr Khan in Jacksonville will find out next season when he desperately picks up Timmy (for a second round pick) to try and fill the half empty Jagwire stadium
     
  19. Demosthenes9

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    Actually sunshine, there have been a number of "experts" who have said that Tebow's mechanics are fixable.

    Run along now and let the grownups do the talking.
     
  20. Demosthenes9

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    Both throws were deep outs. Hell, the freaking announcers even tell you that. As for QBs that are "runners", read what I said again.
     

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