please close this thread. Deuce mccallister is garbage, plus he's coming off a major knee operation...and he has a huge contract. they would have to pay me to take him off NO's hands
And we would not be responsibile for his signing bonus, so we can cut him when he declines and avoid the big salaries. He's garbage? I don't think so. Injury risk? Certainly, but garbage? Come on.
28 is young for a baseball player. The avg. career of an NFL RB is like 4.25 years..There is NO WAY a RB, coming off MAJOR knee surgery is worth 2 picks. Oh yeah...and with us he would be playing behind a work-in-progree OL. In my GM hat I would consider one of the picks...but never a 1st round contingency.
I sincerely doubt that we pick an offensive player in the first round next year. Or second round, for that matter.
Keep in mind that no one would even pay a 2nd round pick for either S. Alexander or E. James two years ago. RB's are not worth much. If your paying a 2nd rounder for a RB you should be expecting to get a star. RB's normally have a very short life span and can be frequently found outside the first round in fact many people argue that taking a RB with a 1st round pick is a waste. The problem here is do you give up future value for short term gain. This team has been in rebuilding mode since 2002 but it has always worked its way around its Parcellian cap problems by aquiring transition players to give itself a chance to win. While one may argue that we should do the same and aquire a RB to give ourselves a chance to win now it is much more unlikley we will win this year with a new offensive system and switiching to the 3-4. I would rather gamble on Houston and Blaylock then pay out future picks for a stop gap transition player or even for someone like McCallister. It ssaid a lot about the CS' opinion of Blaylock, Houston and Washington if they feel the need to trade for a RB. I would much rather see us get a NT than a RB in a trade and draft a RB in rounds two or three next year.
unless they get a great deal i doubt they would get rid of him 2 great backs is an incredible luxury w/ him they can keep bush on kr/pr and not worry about injury not too mention deuce is the starter....bush is the 15-25 touch big play guy which is a great combo with deuce.....and the cap is not an issue for a while with the new cba....so why would they do this? just not seeing it unless we are getting robbed
A 2 and a 3, with the relatively remote possibility of growing into a 2 and a 1, is just too much to pay for a guy who has his share of question marks. Even disregarding the injury history, as Buttle said, nobody was willing to give up those picks for James or Alexander when they were tagged. Different circumstance obviously, as those guys were waiting for a paycheck and Deuce is already signed, but those guys were both better than Deuce even before Deuce got hurt. In the end, If I were running the show, I might give up a 2 for McAllister... but you have to realize how stupid youll look down the line if he gets hurt again.
younger okay by what 3 yrs healthier? He has had one injury. and is there any rb in ncaa that is a proven nfl rb.... ummm no
While you make some very fair points here, the McAllister situation is very different from Edge and Alexander. Edge and Alexander were on 1 year franchise offers, as a result if you were going to keep him past 1 year you would have had to dish out a $15 mil plus signing bonus in addition to trading a high pick for them. That would not be the case with McAllister.
Dude, chill. Didn't mean to offend you by asking if anyone else heard this...it had nothing to do with me not trusting what you were saying. Actually, the reason I asked was because I was gonna ask a follow up question about the interview. Still, though, there've been many random trades posted by people who say they had a source telling them, but no link or anything, just to stir up the pot a little bit. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. I don't want to get all giddy about something thats BS. Once again, not saying what you said was BS, but it's happened before. No need to take it personally, because I didn't mean it to be, or call me a jerkoff, it was just my opinion.
Lemme hear the list, this should be interesting...Name me BETTER RB's who are as proven as DeuceMac and in the prime of his career?
Mangini is going to make Tannenbaum pull the trigger and bring in a rb.No way he goes into the season with a glass jaw qb and no proven rb.
Valid points about Edge and Alexander. I oversimplified the argument about the value of RB's. But I would still argue RB's only have limited value and have much shorter careers than otehr position players. The best counter argument to my argument I guess owuld be Curtis. The 1st and third the Jets paid for him was well worth the price even if I did hate the deal at the time. Regardless I still don't like the idea of overpaying or picking up possible damaged goods in McCallister. I would much rather wait intil next years draft to address the RB issue than give up future value in hopes to make some noise this year.
I don't know? Maybe 3 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons including 1300+ and over 1600 along with 33 TDs in only 3 seaons where he exploded...The ability to break long-runs, grind it out, bruise you and carry the load for an enitre game...What more could you ask for?
So 1 knee injury is damaged goods? Look, the Jets are not going anywhere in 2006, we all know it...Edge James in his return year from a torn knee didn't even rush for 1,000 yards, it was his 2nd year that he bounced back and ran pretty much full speed... Adress a RB in next years draft, so draft a Potential Top 5 pick who hasn't even panned out or proven anything over McAllister? Please...
