Thanks for the explanation. Is there any reason to think his skills translate seamlessly to running the wildcat?
not even "think," it isn't the same thing. the wildcat formation has a non-QB taking the snap rather than the traditional QB receiving the snap. a QB taking the snap and having a read option isn't even remotely similar to a non-QB taking the snap and running it.
But isn't read-option a play that can be run out of different formations and the wildcat being one of the formations where a non-QB lines up behind center? Smith and Tebow both ran read-option plays but Smith ran it out of the "wildcat" because he wasn't listed as a QB while Tebow ran it out of the "spread" because he was listed as a QB. The actual football formations where the lineman, wr, and receivers lined up were the same, but one was listed as WR placed at QB while the other was a QB running the play. My understanding is that the read option is a play with an option. Wildcat is formation where a non-QB takes the snap, usually in the NFL read option plays are run out this. We would be putting a QB back there so it shouldn't be called wildcat, but that is essentially what we are doing?
1. If Schilens can stay healthy he is the guy. Stephen Hill WR GaTech fits this role perfectly but I doubt we will draft him #16. 2. Shonn Greene is the backup RB....we need a starter. 3. No doubt we'll be looking in the draft. 4. 6 picks in rounds 6-7....sounds like a blocking TE will come from there 5. Tebow is protected by his faith....he cannot be injured by mortals
Yep, that's pretty much on point. This year's "Wildcat" will be different from any other version that has been seen. I'm betting that they will actually run a lot of spread option.
I'm wondering what you will promise if Tebow becomes more consistent passing the ball during this offseason
I think Slauson was exaggerating when he said there are two offenses in this playbook. Just sayin.....
According to Jets guard/team spokesman Matt Slauson, the Jets will essentially create a separate offense for Tebow. How good of a football player is Tim really? The Jets reportedly plan to use Tebow as a regular QB, Wildcat QB, fullback, H-back, tailback, and "personal punt protector," so that's how good he is. "You guys will be really surprised by what Mark's going to do this year," Slauson said. "The way we're going to be running things plays right into Mark's strengths, running the ball. (Broncos #1 Rushing offense in 2011) It'll be very similar to what we did in Rex's first two years, very much a style like that -- heavy run, heavy play action and whipping out a deep ball (2011 MS 11.3 yds/comp, TT 13.7 yds/comp) every now and again. That's all the stuff Mark does really well." ------------- And that sounds to me 'exactly' like what Tim's strengths are too, so who really believes that they will be running 'two different offenses' with Mark and Tim? Maybe two slightly different play sets, but with both being within the same offense and game plan. To review: Sanchez hands the ball off really well. Perhaps he'll hand it off to Tebow more than is expected. :beer: ============== Some Player Comparisons, make whatever you will from them::beer: Mark Sanches rookie season 12 TD's to 20 Ints with a 63.0 PER Tim Tebow 16 (2 split-season) starts 17 TD's to 9 Ints, 75.1 PER Mark's Career PER is 73.2 Tim's Career PER is 75.1 Mark 2011 - 39 sacks Tebow 2010/11 - 39 sacks Mark had 8 lost possession fumbles in 2011 Tim has 6 lost possession fumbles in 2010/11 combined. But Mark is a great passer and NFL Quality QB, while Tim is totally hopeless chump that will never be an NFL (9-7) QB....:breakdance:
while there are similarities there are significant differences. ignore Brad Smith on the Jets and look to the Dolphins wildcat. they snapped the ball to a standard RB with the intent of him taking the snap and running, not possibly passing the ball. the formations may be similar but the plays are different. the wildcat is aimed at snapping the ball to the RB, likely, and simply having him run it. a read option snaps the ball into the hands of a QB to decide whether to run or throw.
The reference was minimizing Hunter's sucktardedness. If Tebow learns how to consistently get the ball out of his hands before Hunter allows the sack that also counts.
I hate the fact the we as Jet fans are divided between Sanchez and Tebow. Hopefully winning (which is all I really care about) will solve this. If the Jets win the superbowl this season I dont care who the starter is or any damn about the wildcat! But I like sanchez because his name is on the first and only jersey I ever owned in my life!
People just say "Wildcat" because it sounds cooler. He's really going to be running more read option I would imagine. Bottom line, most of the time he is in the game on offense, it will be in shotgun formation, and we'll run some basic plays, ranging from him handing the ball off to a back or someone in motion, faking the handoff and running it himself, faking the handoff and throwing the ball, and literally running the pitch option. I'm sure they'll figure out what Tebow is best at and run those plays the most, and, if Tebow is going to line up elsewhere, maybe they will run some other trick plays with him. I just worry that running 2 offenses, when we don't even have 1 good offense yet, is a good idea. There's a chance that Tebow can work. He's a good athlete, a red zone threat, an effective runner, and he has somewhat of a passing threat, especially deep. But I worry that Sanchez's development will be stunted by the offensive personnel needing to see what we have in Tebow. And Tebow's development will be stunted because we still have Sanchez.
I wouldn't worry too much about the first thing. I'm pretty sure the Jets have moved on from Sanchez at this point and unless he has a light's out season they'll be trading him before 2013, probably cheap due to the huge guaranteed salary he will carry with him. The second thing is more of a concern. I don't think Tim Tebow is going to learn anything about playing QB effectively in the NFL this season. The Jets focus is going to be on making his package work well and I'm guessing when they set him up as the starting QB going into camp for 2013 that there's very little chance he'll be much farther along than he was when he left the Broncos.
I don't know. I'm one of those that actually believe that both QBs can strive under the current plan. Jets get back to focusing on the running game, which takes pressure off of Sanchez and opens up the passing game for him. Added benefits of having Tebow on board are numerous. Motivation for Sanchez. Perhaps he'll even learn/take on some of Tebow's characteristics, such as not getting down on himself when something goes wrong ? To continue to be optimistic and have faith/belief that things will still work out ? Lastly, the benefit of other teams not being sure of what our offense will be doing when it's on the field.
I can't wait to see your ultra conservative offense... Get used to having Sanchez in a mini roll for a few plays during the game and getting yanked for a dumb wild cat play...
Define ultra-conservative. If that means run-oriented, that's what we need. We don't need Sanchez throwing 60 times per game averaging 6 ypc. Run the ball, take some shots down field utilizing play-action, control the clock, play good defense. That's how this team needs to operate.
It's laughable how fucking inept he is for an NFL starting quarterback. We have to basically water shit down to a pop warner level so he can be 'comfortable' with running plays. How embarrassing for the franchise. go on the ESPN comments section and see what people are saying about this.
