Article regarding Revis' contract

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I already explained to you why that wasn't an option this year.
     
  2. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    TRADING is always a option since when U trade U also trade his contract! :sad:
     
  3. Jet Blue

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    Good Stuff.......


    People, media... All forget, it's not about "Chemistry" and "Foot Fetishes" and "Tebow-mania" .. ITS ALL ABOUT THE DRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    the whole thing falls apart if don't consistently find cheap players and develop them.

    And here we are in the 2012 draft - Another draft at 16 where unless you fall in complete love with an Ingram, Upshaw, Barron or RT you work the phones and trade down...

    Every Draft Geek in America can look at this draft and see a Tier of talent from pick 12 thru round 2 of talent and Value.

    MAKE THAT WORK FOR YOU - You play that right and you can walk away with a S, a RT AND a pass rusher... Or you do it the Jets way - Fall in Love with an Ingram, Trade up and spend a few more picks and when he turns out to be the Average Pass Rusher he is, you have 1 player and no depth.
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Like I already explained to you, you don't TRADE the bonus money already paid. Because that money is prorated over the course of the contract it would be accelerated into the current years cap if you traded him. He was untradeable this year because we would have taken a huge cap hit causing us to have to cut other players just to trade Revis.
     
  5. Jet Blue

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    Revis will fall victim to the Jets Failure to find CHEAP TALENT in the Draft.....

    Like BradwaySuckxzc said - 5 mediocre to bad drafts in a row leaves a ton of holes...

    Jets can't pay Revis AND go out and buy enough FA talent to Build a Super Bowl contender..

    Teams like BAL, NEP and PIT lose players all the time and barely blink.. Jets lose washed up guys like Ellis and Woody and peopel scream how the Jets arent' Loyal and how they let all the Good guys go....LOL - Really!!!!!


    And yeah, his agents are pricks.....
     
  6. Jet Blue

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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/04/13/draft-grader-new-york-jets/


    Perfect timing - A Grading of the Jets recent drafts - Didn't even read it yet...

    Lets see, i grade them all F...

    Now I'll read....



    LOL.... Pretty much RIGHT ON with what I have said - If anything worse.....


    Summary

    With just 13 picks over three years, when you don’t hit on them it really stands out. The selections made from 2008 to 2010 are a real dark age of scouting and development as the Jets look like they’ve fluffed on all of their Day 1 picks and got minimal returns from the remains of each draft. Though, while the Jets have done little with their drafts in recent history, earlier classes are still producing and they’ve done a good job of bringing in free agents. It’s just a shame that the one pick they really needed to hit on (Sanchez) hasn’t been able to take advantage of that.
     
    #86 Jet Blue, Apr 13, 2012
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  7. ScotsJet

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    They're too harsh on Sanchez and Wilson, which drags the whole thing down. Can't argue too much with the conclusions though. If they'd nailed those picks we'd be better off than we are.
     
  8. JetsUK

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    Why then would anyone want to trade up to #16?

    There are 5 or 6 blue chip players in this draft none of whom are getting past the top 10 picks and someone will get desperate for Tannyhill who again wont make it out of the top 10.

    After that its pretty much of a muchness through the rest of the first round so why would someone give up valuable picks to move up to #16.

    Almost every team from #10 onwards would likely be happy to move down.
     
  9. JetsUK

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    They are off the mark with Willson and Keller who are about where they should be given where they were drafted.

    Gholston was of course a huge bust of epic proportions.

    I dont think you can say what you have with Sanchez and its still too early to call true value on his career and his draft spot.

    Even if you accept their grades we have 5 good picks and 5 bad - which is what I would say the Jets drafts have been, which is so-so and that's before you take into account Holmes and Cromartie.
     
  10. Jet Blue

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    Wel, those teams find another team LIKE THE JETS have been in the recent past that falls in love with ONE guy and pays the price....


    You have to at least try....
     
  11. Jet Blue

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    Wilson is NOT a 1st round Cornerback worthy pick as we sit here today...

    Rex got up on a podium and basically mocked the Browns abut how they got a better CB for cheaper than Joe Haden..... Rex PLEASE!

    Same with Keller - He's one dimensional and certainly NOT in the same category with the Top TE's that we see all over the league today... Guy ONLY is a pass catcher and even at that 1 thing he still middle of the road.
     
  12. nyjetsrule

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    Why? depends on the situation.

    If Floyd is still available, a team like Cleveland (assuming they take Richardson at 4) would want to jump Cincinnati to get their guy.

    Maybe the Lions want to jump the Bengals to get their choice of CB (or the last 1st round corned).

    Maybe somebody has a hard-on for a sliding OL like Jonathon Martin.

    What about Mark Barron? Somebody is going to want that guy, and the Jets supposed interest could cause a team to want to move up.
     
  13. JetsUK

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    Sure, I appreciate that obviously, but there are always more teams happy to move down than there are teams wanting to move up, especially in a draft like this where there is a very small number of top talents and then a very even spread after that.

    We cannot assume that there will be a great offer to move down and it would be wrong to jump all over the FO if we end up staying where we are (though no doubt there will be plenty of people lining up to do just that on draft day).
     
  14. RochesterJet

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    how is it that we ended up paying for Tebows bonus $ then?
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I'm not quite sure, it's a good question. I know there was something weird about that money being a pay advance or something.
     
  16. Royce Parker

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    Can someone please tell me what Kyle Wilson would have had to do last year for people to be satisfied that he was a good pick? He's playing with probably the best CB tandem in the league (one of those guys being THE best CB in the league) and it seemed to me that he held his own very well, not to mention he improved about 150% from his rookie year. Of course the CB position is tricky to analyze using numbers, but what did people see last season to make them think he isn't living up to his potential?
     
  17. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    I would think Revises prior paid bonus money has already been accounted for & I would also think that any bonus still due him is part of his contract which will transfer to his new team if traded. Now if he was cut I understand what you are saying :sad:
     
  18. Jet Blue

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    If Kyle Wilson was 1st round worthy he would worthy of being a #1 CB on most teams and The New York Jets wouldn't bother with the insanity of signing ASO and probably don't even cave in for Cromartie.....

    Cromartie has as much baggage as anyone - If you draft right you tell Cro to take a hike, stick your FIRST ROUND STUD at CB 2 and find a cheap nickel guy on the wire.

    As stated, the Jets should be reaping the benefits of a Great Draft pick in Kyle Wilson by having him at CB2 on the CHEAP while they spend the Cro/Aso money on a Pass Rusher to fill the void for the lousy Ghost pick....

    I know the Jets and many teams want 3 Great CB's but, IMO, it's just way too much money at 1 position and IMO, Kyle Wilson should have afforded the Jets to save for other spots.....


    Hey, I suppose we will find out if/when Revis does hit the road - then we have Cro / Kyle and fill in for CB3.
     
    #98 Jet Blue, Apr 13, 2012
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  19. xxedge72x

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    Bonuses are paid immediately after the contract was signed. So Sanchez received $20 million just for signing the dotted line on his "extension".

    Even though he's been paid the money already, for cap and accounting purposes the money is spread out over the length of the contract. The earlier the Jets get rid of him, the more they'll have to pay against the cap.

    This is much more prohibitive years 1 and 2, since none of his money is guaranteed years 3 4 and 5.

    Due to the way the rules work, Sanchez is guaranteed to be a Jet this year and next.
     
  20. JetsUK

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    Its generally accepted that most CBs take 3 to 4 years to develop - Wilson (who showed great improvement in his second year) was taken so that when either Cro or Revis were to move on we would have another excellent CB that was developed and ready to step in.
     

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