Money is a driving factor for most players. But those boys in n england get good players for dirt cheap. Plus palyers do visit places where there is a chance of getting the contract they want. I guess I expected Rex to work his magic to keep from going into the draft with so many holes. It's way to hard to address so many hole in a draft and expect to be a SuperBowl contender.
RR is the same guy. That's what I meant by that statement. I think a lot of the negativity surrounding the team is a product of the media and it's nowhere near as bad as it seems. Sanchez and Holmes had an argument, they've moved on. Yes, anonymous players have been spouting off, but a lot of starters have come to the teams defense publicly with name attached. RRs foot fetish bullshit means nothing, he truly doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks of him and if that changes players' perception of him then I wouldn't even want said played on the Jets. Those who think Sanchez was coddled are probably singing a different tune now that Teblow and his headache have arrived. The media is responsible for all this bullshit. They blew the locker room problems way the fuck out of proportion. Nothing has changed with RR and his relationship with his players, other than maybe him being wiser from this ridiculous experience.
Ryan has to have changed from his experience. But more to the point I don't buy this is all about media misrepresenting what was going on, so I don't buy your take on that part to begin with.
I think Tebow came here because it was no secret that the coach and GM in Jacksonville didn't want him, only the owner did and he did for obvious reasons, so he could finally take the tarps off those third deck seats.
In Jacksonville Tebow would have to start. Here he doesn't have to. Nobody wants Tebow as a starter but everyone recognizes he is a great football player.
Tim Tebow wants Tebow as starter. There's no way he doesn't want to play. All other things being equal Woody Johnson wants Tim Tebow as starter. He wants the most marketable player in the NFL on the field. What owner wouldn't, all other things being equal? That's the conundrum the Jets are going to face, and why Mark Sanchez performance short of being extraordinary isn't going to matter next year unless the Jets are winning big. It's like a puzzle box where all solutions either wind up with Mark Sanchez having a pro bowl caliber season or Tim Tebow on the field, because short of a pro bowl caliber season out of the QB the Jets are really likely headed for 8-8/9-7 or thereabouts if they get lucky and worse if they do not.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. You think a bunch of players on this team hate each other and Rex? I didn't mean the media was "misrepresenting" what happened. There was definitely feuding, I just think its not nearly as big a problem as they will have you believe.
i think the playing for a coach thing is very overrated. it's a nice thing to say and coaches should take it as a compliment when they get mentioned.. but at the end of the day, players aren't trying to take paycuts just because they hear one boss is cooler than the other. they're playing for once in a lifetime paychecks. i think it's more of a "yeah, it would be cool if that guy was the coach for the team i'm already on."
Not every player's situation is the same. Some can make more money from pesonal endorsements, and they in turn will feel more of that kind of money can be made with a team that has success in the playoffs. And there are players who want a ring for personal satisfaction, and will choose to go to a team that they think has a greater chance of getting there. This is not so complicated.
Gailey has a pretty decent record and means what he says. Of course money was a big influence but there had to be some other things he liked.
obviously not every player thinks the same way. but your examples don't include playing for a specific coach which is what i was getting at. i think money/winning and a bunch of other things like location, starter/sub, teammates comes way before coach.
Well lets see. Who would you rather date? The Crazy Dame who's hot but has a load of baggage OR, the Dame with minimal baggage but who is as hot or even hotter yet? Perhaps that's how outsiders see it as money has alot to do with it BUT, some folks just don't need the drama and they see how Rex runs his lockerroom and how the media treats this team. All things (money) being equal, why would a player want to come to this sideshow?
what? i wasn't talking about all things being equal. if everything is equal, then some players will pick rex and some won't. but things rarely work out as neatly as that. i'm saying i don't think that saying you want to play for a coach equates to "when i'm a free agent, i will go play for that coach." because there are so many more important factors to a player than having a cool coach. i think that it is way overblown and people who expected free agents to flock to the jets, giving discounts just to play under rex were disillusioned from the start.
Remember the guy that said fat coaches dont win ? maybe everyone read that and that is why they dont want to play for rex
Agreed. But of course, there were all of these players saying "I'd love to play for Rex" back before all the drama started. That may have given people the impression you've described.
Really?? I think the vocal demonstration of the Jets locker room problems, by the players got the bad ball rolling. Press of course jumps on any thread good or bad and like to amplify it for sure. Players will not choose a franchise they see as being on the way down or having real FO or locker room issues. As a Bills fan I know this all too well. 2012: Buddy and Chan finally got the locker room believing, signed their own first (Kyle Williams, Stevie Johnson and Buddy announced he is paying Freddy Jax even at his age based on the fact he has been underpaid, players love that kind of straight shooting GM), they then want after free agents. Two years ago, I don't care what you offer Mario or any FA, Bills were not getting the top tier guys. Now the belief is that the Bills are unified and on the way up, I hope that is true. I think most players see the Jets as in disarray, regardless of how incredible the turn around under Rex was in year one and two. Amazed me honestly that they ascended so quick and it also will if they fall as quick.