I'm a big Sanchez supporter and have defended him many times. The dude has played 3 fukin seasons and people are on his nutz like crabs because he hasn't won a SB... lmao. 2 AFCC's in his 1st 3 years... That said, now it is time to step up and become that QB that makes a difference. Competiton is good and if a QB can't rise to it then gtfo. I think he will. Also, imo he hasn't had a QB coach to teach him the right things. the Cavanaugh/Shotty combo was a hindrance to his progression. We need a real QB coach not a fukin life coach who has him sitting in a classroom listing goals on paper.
Sanchez needs to improve if the Jets are going to improve. Its that simple. Given his poor performances last season the question is whether Sanchez will improve or not. By bringing in a talented backup QB with a relentless work ethic and great skills as an option/wildcat QB who could blossom into a very good NFL QB - the Jets are challenging both Sanchez and Tebow to improve. They will hopefully push each other to improve each other and this will be good for the team. If that doesn't happen and if Sanchez doesn't improve or gets injured - the Jets at least have a viable backup QB who could still improve and blossom. THIS IS A GOOD THING. Its certainly much better than having drew stanton trotting out to the huddle - and I dare anybody to make the case that Drew Stanton is a better QB than Tim Tebow. If you cannot make that case than STFU.
oh yeah brunnell - he was really useful as a backup - lets just replicate last season all over again - lets have no viable alternative at backup qb and just hope Sanchez improves with no competition.
I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that, since Tebow's coming in with the understanding that he'll play and not just ride the bench, Sanchez can be pulled when he needs to be pulled.. without actually PULLING him. They can always just say it was part of their game plan to rotate Tebow in. If they play it right (and they probably won't) the Jets can use Tebow to both push Sanchez and, in a way, take pressure off him.
I understand the analogy, and it is the first analysis by someone with a football brain that puts a positive spin on the trade. However, there is a big difference between the two situations. Montana was well established and was a star and was nearing the end of his career when Young arrived. Montana was 31 years old in 1987 when Young was acquired by 49ers and had played 9 seasons already and won 2 SBs. Young was almost 6 years younger than Montana and had only played two NFL seasons. They were never perceived as equals. It was only a question of when the Montana era would end and the Young era begin, and that was accelerated when Montana was injured in 91 and 92. Sanchez is 9 months older than Tebow and has only played 3 years (one more than Tebow) and is still developing. This is not a situation of acquiring Tebow for when Sanchez is too old or injured to continue and Tebow is the QB in waiting. They are virtual equals as far as age and NFL experience goes, which means that unless Tebow is content to remain a back up and a wildcat QB, this becomes a QB competition and not a succession plan.
Why should any player be "content to remain a back up?" Who the hell wants a team made up of guys who were content to remain a back up? A team of contented back ups is a losing team with a losing attitude. We Want Winners who are willing and able to Fight, scratch and work themselves into becoming the best players they can become and who push the starters to keep improving and performing.
Sense. It exists. And that's why I say no way in hell Tebow remains a back-up. Either the Jets will be the first team to change the way we play QB in the NFL, and turn it into such a thing as a shared position, with packages, just like any other or Tebow will eventually start here. I say that just because Tebow's always won at whatever the hell he did. He won it when his own coach didn't want anything to do with him. He's certainly got a great shot at winning it when he has support from the staff. Might win it during preseason. And if he wins it fair and square, well then that's life.
Wayne Hunter and no number two WR. A question at 1 and 3 when you think about it. Sanchez will faulter yet again in 2012. What a terrible way to develop a WR. Keep shuffling the WR's. Ground and Pound........
If he wins it fair and square, then Jets fans will support him. I just don't believe it will happen. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I will say this: there is no chance in hell Tebow starts the first game of the season. None.
I wouldn't hate this move so much if I wasn't so certain, Tebow would eventually be the starting QB, and it might not even be due to Sanchez' poor performance. That idea terrifies me. Tebow is god awful
Thank you.. A man who know his stuff. Tebow is garbage.. Hell most people on here complain about Sanchez comp. % Tebow was under 50%.
In order to have a legitimate QB competition you need two QBs. Tebow was not brought in to be the #1 QB because he currently does not have the skillset to be a #1 QB. Can he develop that skillset? Possibly, but the probability is pretty low until he fixes his delivery, footwork and recognition skills in reading a defense. Tebow was brought in because the cost to bring him was pretty low - a 4th rounder and flipping a 6/7. He is a back-up who has proven he can win in the NFL - albeit you will need to have an offense structured to take advantage of those current skills he does have. The Jets like the wildcat and have used it for a few years now. Tebow can step-in as a back-up and play a game or two while still being successful which is what you want a back-up QB to be able to do. He does bring some intangibles that will help. First, by all accounts he is not a "me-guy" so he will not be a jerk in the lockerroom and turn the ballclub into a 3-ring circus like has happened in other media created "QB competitions." Provided no one reads the NY Post or Daily News in the lockerroom, there is no issue. Second, he lights a fire under Mark's fanny. Despite what everyone may believe, adversity doesn't build character it reveals character. We will finally see what Mark is made up of - will he grab the QB position by the throat and take command of this team or just meekly move along to dump-heap of NFL QBs? Better we find out in 2012 that he can't hack it so we can prepare for a new QB in 2014, whether that be Tebow (in the event he develops) or someone else. Finally, should Tebow develop and make a big jump over Mark, what is the downside? As a Jets fan, I want a Super Bowl victory and I don't much care about style points after 38 years of waiting. IF Tebow is the guy, Sanchez better step aside or better yet Tebow better push him aside. IF Sanchez is the guy, I want to see the same. The bottom-line is that Tebow fills a need on many levels for the Jets. He is a QB that can step-in as a back-up and win within the framework of their offense. He pushes Sanchez - even if that pressure is coming less from the performance on the field and more from the field perception. Finally - and most importantly - all of what happens moving forward is firmly in Mark Sanchez's hands. If Mark produces than there are no more doubts.
LOL, this site is as good as comedy central sometimes and this post is as good as it gets. spit out my coffee lmao. tebow traded for a second rd pick? too funny. sanchez silence the critics by week 6? he hasn't been better than a bottom tier qb in all three seasons with a 70's qb rating, now all of a sudden he's going to get it and become a good qb, absolutely laughable. this board has been gold for laughs since the beginning of last season when so many were predicting superbowl, yet the talent level took a major drop from the previous 2 seasons. i love this site, it's great for comedy!
This situation is closer to Drew Brees Phillip Rivers. Brees was a bust so they drafted rivers Brees made a huge leap (takes time to become an NFL QB) the rest is history. If Sanchez does not take the step Tebow will not save this franchise. Rex will be fired and most likley the GM. As was the case the day they drafted Sanchez Rex's fate and Marks fate are tied together.
It's funny because on WFAN yesterday a caller made these very same comments and Fatcessa shit all over the guy.
The only reason this is such a big deal on these forums is because Woody knows he has so many idiot fanboyz who will make it a big deal.So he did the deal.
sanchez about to have a break out season and we talking about tim tebow pushiing mark?! lol i hope mark lights it up this year and demand a trade to a different team that doesn't disrespect him like this. qb competition my @ss, this is sanchez team
