Aikman says Football may not remain as the most popular sport

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  1. BeastBeach

    BeastBeach Banned

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    I agree with your idea in general, but again I think what you're getting at is way too subjective to ever be implemented.

    A few more examples:

    Brandon Marshall: 6'4", 230-Overweight
    Cam Newton: 6'5", 248-Overweight
    David Harris: 6'2", 250-Obese

    Are those guys really abnormally packing bulk on?
     
  2. Dierking

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    Cut rosters sizes drastically so guys will have to be in shape to be on the field a whole lot more than they are now.

    Basically, rugbyize football.
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Troy Aikman has a giant face. Just like John Travolta.
     
  4. Br4d

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    The BMI doesn't have to be indexed the same for football as it is for sedentary people. The thing you'd be trying to avoid is the extremes and particularly situations where people packed on 50 extra pounds just for the mass.

    If you look at the Jets offensive and defensive lines in the 80's you see a lot of guys at 270 pounds and 6'2". You don't see 6'2" 310, which has become kind of the minimum standard in the NFL at this point for play on the lines.

    Brandon Moore is small for a guard and yet he would have been the Jets heaviest offensive lineman in 1985. Obviously William Perry was playing at the same time but he stood out from the crowd. Today he would be only slightly larger than the average defensive tackle.

    The NFL needs to fix this or the problem will fix them instead.
     
  5. Br4d

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    That's an option that would work, although the NFL's set piece arrangements are perfectly setup to commercialize the game with frequent lengthy pauses to sell advertising.

    You're right though that there's no reason that NFL rosters have to be 50+ people. 35 would work just as well once the injury factor was significantly lessened. The over-specialization of things like punting and place-kicking really is not necessary. A player who did not specialize but practiced the arts as a sideline would probably only hit 10% fewer FG's and 5 yards less per punt.

    If nothing else FG's and punts would become strategically risky and the action would be more entertaining as teams went for it on 4th down more often.
     
  6. JetsVilma28

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    The Jets are my #1 team. I think officiating, challenges and commercials hurt the flow and beauty of the game. Don't get me wrong I am still, "totally addicted." (I mean, I fucking love football.)

    Baseball is my #1 sport. there's just something so beautiful about this game. I am a BIG fan of tradition and I don't think there is any other game with a richer tradition.
     
  7. Cakes

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    I would love to see it. Imagine Tom Brady and Eli Manning having to go both ways? Sammy Baugh and Sid Luckman are in the Hall of Fame for their passing exploits but both were also good defensive halfbacks.

    Sadly, I do not see it happening because we are talking about a major number of lost jobs. If players went back to having to play both ways, then obviously we are looking at 35 man rosters.
     
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    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    The league and specifically the NFLPA will be vehemently opposed to major drops in roster size. Maybe the US government will get involved for health reasons someday, but I cannot see a way that roster size would be decreased otherwise.

    There is no reason to have specialized placekickers. How cool would it be seeing Chad Johnson and Ndamukong Suh kicking on a regular basis? Roster size would stay the same. Teams would be able to dress more actual football players. The kicking game would be more fun too. Lem Barney is a Hall of Fame cornerback who also did some punting. Imagine seeing a guy like Antonio Cromartie punt or kick field goals? That would make the sport a little more fun.
     
  9. Br4d

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    The return of the dropkick is unrealistic given the way the shape of the football has evolved, but maybe the NFL should go back to the rounder ball as a way of toning down the passing game?

    Tom Brady has made a couple of pooch punts in his career. I'm sure other QB's have also although I cannot recall any offhand.
     
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    Yeah, the union wouldn't stand for it, but at some point they have to realize they need to do something about the fact that, post-career, the rank and file tends to become miserably disabled and dies young.
     
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    Kenny O'Brien did it a couple of times in the Coslet days. Randall Cunningham once knocked a 90+ yarder against the Giants that was downed at the one.
     
  12. abyzmul

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    I can see it happening. Look over the course of the past 50 years alone and you can see the development of the athlete.

    Trends in franchise penny-pinching in conjunction with teams finding 'versatile' players (read: multi-functional) lead me to believe that franchises are looking to lower the number of roster bonuses they pay out annually. I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the items on the table during the lockout, as ludicrous as it sounds.
     
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    You don't know what "Jordan type" means.
     
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    you are using results of players who played in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

    Since the 90's, technology and sports medicine has changed. Not to mention new rules that penalize late hits and helmet to helmet, etc...
     
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    This is not the kind of lawsuit that will hurt the NFL a lot unless Duerson's heirs refuse to settle it. I expect the NFL will fork over a 7 figure settlement with terms not disclosed and it will go quietly away.

    The kind of suit that will hurt the NFL is the one where a kid breaks another kids neck with a hard tackle and both parents wind up suing the NFL for encouraging violent behavior by their children. The parents won't have a good case and the NFL will not settle but that suit will drag on in the courts and inspire similar suits and then the blood will be in the water.

    That's how it is going to happen. Aggrieved parents suing the deep pockets of the NFL without any direct attachment and low prospects of winning.
     
  17. BeastBeach

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    Well considering it hasn't exactly been defined by Webster's dictionary I don't see how you could be such an ass about differing definitions of a term.

    I already added a caveat to my statement later in the thread.

    But I will concede to your superior knowledge on this subject and let you tell me who the "jordan types" were in the history of the NBA
     
  18. MiamiDolphin

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    I apologize if you were offended...

    "Jordan type" means a lot more than Kobe or Wade watching MJ play and copying his game.
     
  19. BeastBeach

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    Well for one, I don't know that there is any basketball player that hasn't tried to copy MJs game. They would be fools not to.

    Additionally, why does that matter?

    And finally I still want to know who is a Jordan type. What would it take to become one? Because you've already said that if he copies MJ and plays like him then he can't be one.
     
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    Fan of arena football? They have many 2-way players FB/LB, WR/DBs, and OL/DL.
     

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