2012 Cap Situation

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  1. CurbYourEnthusiasm

    CurbYourEnthusiasm Well-Known Member

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    Any cap gurus have a grasp on this team moving forward? I've read different articles over the last few weeks ranging from 'we are already 7-10 mil under the cap, before making any moves' to 'we have absolutely no money to spend and will have to trim the roster to sign players.' Which one are we closer too?
     
  2. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    not to be weiner but every few days or so a thread starts asking this same question about the dang cap.....

    after watching our 8-8 gem and the fuck ass giants playoff run, maybe its better we dont have one penny to spend so as to make 7 sensible picks in april.

    there.
     
  3. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    nyjetscap.com does a great job with this stuff. check it out.

    I don't know how much the cap is set to increase this year, I'm sure someone knows a pretty solid estimate but the Jets are at about 127 million in salary going into next year.

    The one big money saving cut I would expect to see is Hunter saving 2.5 million when he gets cut which puts the Jets at about 124.5 going into next year.

    The other big factor will be just how much of the unspent cap room from this year carries into next season.
     
  4. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Is Hunter a for sure cut? I see them giving him another shot in the new blocking scheme.
     
  5. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Not for sure but if they want to sign someone who everyone will feel better about at RT that 2.5 million will be needed.
     
  6. Nilton

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    I don't think the cap has been set yet.
     
  7. Phear

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    I've heard people say it'll be about 124 mil. I really hope it's more.
     
  8. MyFavoriteMartin5

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    nyjetscap.com is the go to source. Jason does a great job with the site.

    Jets have about 123-126 million tied up. The cap is at about 124 million. The Jets can borrow 1.5 million from a future cap. They will have around 9 million in cap space which they will bring from last year's cap onto this year's cap. Any unused cap space carries over into the following year.

    I wouldn't really worry too much about the Jets cap situation provided Santonio isn't cut. If they were to cut Eric Smtih and Wayne Hunter that is 4.5 million saved right there.

    In 2013 they will have a ton of cap space because they can cut guys like Scott and Pace and save a ton of money. I only bring that up because if you the Jets want to sign a free agent they could give him a small signing bonus and then just guarantee a huge salary in 2013.

    The guy that I want the Jets to get is Mario Williams. A few weeks ago I though this was a complete pipe dream, but his franchise tag number would be 22.9 million (120% of his previous year's salary) and the texans are reportedly 20 million over the cap.

    The texans still might find a way to franchise him because there are definitely players they can cut who have bloated contracts and are just ok players, but to clear enough to have at least 22.9 million in cap space for mario and offer Arian foster a high restricted free agent tender will be tough.
     
  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If it's true that Mario Williams is going to cost 22.9 million to franchise, well that's not happening. The man missed 11 games last season and you do not use a fifth of your cap to keep him unless he's the QB.

    I'd say the Texans are kind of screwed here.
     
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    Its true that that would be his franchise number.

    So the odds of him getting tagged, or tagged and traded is effectively 0.

    Either he signs a mammoth contract with the Texans or he does it elsewhere.

    Eitherway this guys getting 6 years and over 100 million with over 50m guaranteed if you ask me
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Maybe he'll get that but his stats don't say superstar any more. They say very good player. He could just as easily find his market is 5 years and 55 million with 25 up front.
     
  12. Phear

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    I'd rather the jets spend money in FA for a stop gap at RT and get one of these safeties in FA. Mario Williams was a beast in the 4-3. But him missing so many games this season I didn't see enough of him in the 3-4 to be comfortable with the jets paying him the type of money he'd demand.
     
  13. dcm1602

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    Hard to get a ton of sacks when you have one of the worst secondaries in the league.

    He had 5 sacks in < 5 games this year could of had a behemoth season.

    I think on a top 15 defense this guy is has the potential of putting up 15 + sacks at least 4 of the next 5 years

    Maybe he wont get a 6 year contract, but big name OLB on the open market means big time bidding coming his way.

    Esp with the increased salary cap + salary floor coming the nfls way over the next year or two, I guarantee hes alot closer to 100 + million than 50
     
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    Here are the cap numbers for every team for the 2012 cap

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...0/897233-2012-nfl-salary-cap-projections.html

    Looks like the texans have plenty of cap space, which is contrary to some other reports. They definitely could franchise Mario more easily than I thought, and his franchise tag number would be 16.56 million according to ESPN.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/50566/mario-williams-and-the-franchise-tag

    Sorry guys just used a bad source the first time. Still I definitely could see the texans not franchising him, but its more uncertain what they will do.
     
  15. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He's never put up 15+ sacks in his career. He hasn't been in double-digits in three seasons. I agree he's headed into his prime but the trend is not good at this point and to have it capped by a torn pec which made him miss two-thirds of the season, well the only good thing about that is that it wasn't a lower body injury.
     
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    Thats incorrect

     
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    Texans had the 32nd pass defense last year, 18th year before that.

    Their corners/safeties all sucked something mighty, and their defense was piss poor in general (and had coaching woes).

    Obviously a great pass rusher improves the pass defense, but at the same time when your corners/safeties are getting burned so easily it gives you less time to get to the QB.

    Thats why I think it would depend on him ending up on a top 15 defense to have numbers that beastly.

    Hell if he ended up here (which he wont) he could be putting up numbers that would make Jared Allen cringe
     
  18. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Mario Williams with our corners would be a beast. His presence would also reduce the negative impact our safeties could have on the game.
     
  19. SyracuseJet

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    Call me crazy, but I'd rather have Calais Campbell than Mario Williams. We need somebody to move the line around to allow a pass rush to exist. We need our own version of Ngata.
     
  20. Don

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    Today is the 8th, the day they either cut Holmes or pay him for the next two years..depending on what they do it will effect the cap.
     

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