We were not watching the same games because I often saw Sanchez needed to duke out a defender and try and throw on the run. The Broncos, Giants, Patriots(2nd game), Eagles, Ravens, Raiders, and Cowboys(Ware made Hunter look like a damn clown) Sanchez was getting blasted and if not blasted then made Sanchez run around out of the pocket like a mad man and force a tough throw. The only game the O-Line really stepped up on was the 1st Dolphins game, Chargers game, Chiefs game and Redskins game. I don't know if I should count the Bills games since their pass rush is pretty laughable.
The link I gave in the first post of the thread uses percentages, everyone needs to stop this "BUT HE WAS UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE!!!!!!" bullshit. Yeah, I get it. It's accounted for. He's still awful.
You know it doesn't. I don't think there will ever be a stat that does. Either way, it's not realistically quantifiable. I watched the games, yes the receivers sucked, but so did Sanchez. A lot.
I'm not saying Sanchez had a great year. But statistically he improved in just about every category from last year. So would it not seem realistic that had the o line protected better and our WRs could get any type of separation, Sanchez would also have played better? I'm not trying to paint Sanchez as a great QB at this point, I only want people to acknowledge that it wasn't ALL on Sanchez.
You are very true. The offensive regression was based upon the offense as a whole unit not one piece of the offense. The receivers, running back, and line all regressed and played poorly overall as a unit. Was a wonder the team was able to get to 8-8 even.
I think sanchez could have counter a lot of the pressure if he only coul learn to read where the pressure is coming from. He would take a major leap if that is improved to next season, much more than the rt fix.
More proof that this pile of garbage should not be the starting qb next year. Forgot it was all Shottys fault so under Sparano he will be the best qb in the league.
Sacks given up: 2011: 40 (20th) 2010: 28 (8th) 2009: 30 (10th) What's astounding is, 40 sacks were given up during 547 attempt (17th in the league) for a sack rate of 7.3% - a huge jump from 5.3% the year before. I still maintain that, if the OL gives up more than 2 sacks a game, the QB suffers. Protection in 2011 was nothing short of dog shit.
What about NE followed by Denver? Andre Carter and Von Miller got defensive players of the week for the AFC in back to back weeks against our O line. The O line was worse than you remember especially if you forgot the two games I mentioned. They were inconsistent like the rest of our offensive unit. Agreed. Sanchez is to fault, but it's not like the run game, o line, and wide receiving crew were all playing at a high level while Sanchez was dragging behind. The whole team played poorly and Sanchez is only one aspect of that.
Sacks are a mixed bag. They are half the fault of the QB. Also, the Packers had lower rated pass protection this year. Only EIGHT teams gave up less than 2 sacks a game. The Bills had the best pass protection in the league. It didn't help them too much.
when you're getting sacked 39 times (2.4/game), any qb would get happy feet and have terrible #s under pressure...
If Sanchez completed 61% of his passes and only threw 5 INTs like Alex Smith did, the Jets would have been a playoff team. This year's Niners were extremely similar to the 09-10 Jets. But Smith did his job as game manager far better than Sanchez did either year. That's why the Niners went 13-3.
And if the 2009 or 2010 Jets had the 2011 Sanchez leading them, we probably would have won more games in both those years, maybe had a home playoff game, and possibly a Super Bowl appearance. I certainly think the Jets could have beaten the Packers or New Orleans considering how close the Jets played them with what amounted to a rookie QB.
That's possible. Sanchez had a pretty bad 2011 season, though. I'm not necessarily going to chalk that up to regression, as he ran a screwy offense comprised of pieces he had no chemistry with. I just think the the excuses that the D and the O-line being less than elite are kind of weak. They shouldn't have to be.
