D'Brickashaw Ferguson gave up more sacks than Hunter

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  1. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    Who gave up the most sacks in 2011?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/10249/who-gave-up-the-most-sacks

    Who gave up the most sacks?
    By Rich Cimini

    Let's step away from controversy for a moment to discuss some real football -- specifically, the Jets' pass-protection struggles.

    The Jets allowed 40 sacks, which ranks 20th in the league. They allowed a sack once every 14.7 dropbacks. A year ago, it was once every 19.8 dropbacks. That's a fairly significant drop.

    Here's a breakdown of the sacks allowed, courtesy of STATS, LLC. This doesn't list QB Mark Sanchez, who, based on my own film analysis, was responsible for at least five sacks by holding the ball too long.

    STARTING OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (SACKS ALLOWED)

    LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson -- 9.50
    RT Wayne Hunter -- 8.50
    C Nick Mangold -- 3.00
    LG Matt Slauson -- 2.50
    RG Brandon Moore -- 1.00

    OTHERS

    TE Matthew Mulligan -- 3.00
    TE Dustin Keller -- 1.00
    WR Patrick Turner --1.00
    OL Vladimir Ducasse -- 0.50
    RB Shonn Greene -- 0.50
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    WTF!?
     
  2. avrus

    avrus New Member

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    Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

    What does this mean? Well it means, of course, that other teams had multiple quarterbacks playing for them.

    So the question you ask yourself is:

    Which is worse. Being the 5th most sacked quarterback in the league, or your team being 20th most sacks allowed?

    It's a trap you can fall into in business analysis as well. It's called not seeing the forest for the trees.
     
  3. hazmat

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    How about who gave up the most qb pressures. That's a much more telling stat.
     
  4. BonScott

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    Surprised Moore only gave up 1.
    Can someone find penalties by OL?
     
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    Penalties by TE Mulligan u mean right? i think about a bazillion
     
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  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Are you shocked? Brick had a terrible season.
     
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    The reason we rank 20th in sacks allowed instead of 32nd is because plays were never called requiring Sanchez to look more than 5 yards downfield.
     
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  10. jilozzo

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    Agree its a very telling stat which really verifies the offensive style, or lack of.

    Conversely this is a good measure of a defense as well, specifically on first down.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Rex talked about that last week, up until the Giants game, Moore was the only starting guard in the league that hadn't allowed a sack. Probably because they were stacking the edge to murder Hunter.
     
  12. Mambo9

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    I know he didn't look all the solid at times but I never realized he gave up close to 10 sacks. At game speed I thought they were more Slauson's responsability. Guess I was wrong.
     
  13. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    this...why in the world would i attack moore. just let ur DE go to work or better double up with a LB/CB/or S on hunters side. we don't need to drop these guys in coverage against this O.
     
  14. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    Which leads me to question why so many people are down on Slauson. He's really not a weak link on the line and I can easily see him being with us for another 6-8 years. You don't hear his name mentioned very often and that's a good thing. I'm sure that playing between Mangold and D'Brick has served to insulate him some.
     
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    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    i wonder what the stats show when u break it down according to down. the actual number of sacks doesn't bother me too much its the ones on 3rd down that kill an offense.
     
  16. NYJet87

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    Brick had a rough year. I'm surprised he led the line in allowed sacks but yet I'm not because of his poor play. I guess Hunter looked so horrible that it shielded a bad year from Brick.
     
  17. jilozzo

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    i remember reading when they drafted slauson in round 6 that he evolved as the 3rd choice when on the clock because the game tapes of the 1st 2 choices were terrible AND they didn't get too watch slausons.

    funny stuff and we have gotten our moneys worth from a blind pick so to say.
     
  18. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Yep, there's no point in fighting for a sack when you have a golden opportunity right in front of you.

    I think the sack numbers would have been much worse if Sanchez hadn't gone into checkdown mode along about the Denver game and never came out of it again.

    The difference between Chad and Sanchez last season was that the bad lineplay in 2007 forced Chad to go where he was most comfortable anyway. The weakness this year took away the things that Sanchez most liked to do, which are the mid-range routes on the sidelines and the throws up the seams.
     
  19. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    The line as a unit was just terrible this season. It was magnified by how well hey had played the last 2-3 years. Get that fixed and the offense can at least function between the 20's.
     
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    Pretty much nails it. All the complaints about not throwing down field overlook this. Short pass offense still giving up tons of pressure & lots of sacks.
     

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