I think you're being the typical fan with the green glasses. Sanchez is a below average to average NFL starting QB. He only has, what, two years left on his contract? What's the game plan here? Develop him so he can run off to some other team and succeed? No. Fuck that. Either get someone in here to at least compete for the job or start grooming your replacement.
The Colts aren't going to trade Peyton Manning. They are either going to trade the first pick and keep Manning, or pick Luck and release Manning. That would make Manning a free agent and he could go anywhere he wants. And he ain't going to pick Rexy and the Jets.
Now that they're locked into the first pick, why wouldn't they trade him before he's due his bonus? I don't understand why they wouldn't try to get something for him.
schein just said that manning cannot even throw. the jets should just stick with sanchez for next year
Because Manning has personally made Jim Irsay $400 MM the last 10 years and he feels loyalty to him. He could care less about the $28 MM, aside from cap implications.
He'd fit in then. I don't understand why we haven't talked about Kerley as our next QB. That was a gun right on the money. I'm only about 99% joking.
I highly doubt loyalty plays a part at this point. Loyalty would be not drafting Luck and creating this controversy in the first place. It's a business. The only way he releases him instead of trades him is if it makes sense monetarily (which maybe it does).
I agree. From what I understand, if they Colts trade Manning, they would take a cap hit in 2012 equal to the amount of guaranteed money left on his contract. If they release him, they still have to pay him the guaranteed money, but it wouldn't count against the 2012 cap. My understanding may not be 100% correct (and, I'm sure someone here will correct me), but the bottom line is it is more "cap friendly" for the Colts to release Manning than it would be for them to trade him. Edit: Plus, the team trading for him would have to take on his existing contract which would include the huge roster bonus he's due this year. SO, not many (if any) teams would be willing to do that. If he's released, he can sign a new deal with a new team which wouldn't require a $28 million up front payment.
why would they look for a new QB? b/c in 3 years he missed the playoffs once? b/c in 3 years he didn't make the title game once? Bad seasons happen and mark struggled but our OL stunk, our D was mediocre at best, our run game played well for only half the year, our WRs were inconsistent. This is not all on the QB. I guess Pitt should have gotten rid of Ben in 2006, I guess SD never should have given Brees a cahnce, I guess NO should have gotten rid of Brees for missing the playoffs in '07 & '08, I guess GB should have given up on Rodgers after missing the playoffs in '08 and not winning a playoff game until '10,... it's foolish to give up on a young QB especially one who has helped us reach new heights as a franchise in only 3 years. It was? tell what playoff game we would be playing in had we won? Today was as much a playoff game atmosphere as the '08 finale, even if we win we do't get in. That's vry different from the 6 playoff games he has played. He stunk yesterday w/o a doubt but it's asinine to even entrtain a new QB at this point. 2 years ago we had a great run game, last year we did not. 2 years our D was a legit top 5 D, last year they were not. 2 years ago he was more along for the ride but made huge plays to beat Cincy and SD, last year he was a major reason we won 11 games and made big plays in the 2nd half at Indy then badly outplayed the best QB of this generation on the road in the div rd before the D collapsed in the title game again. Most fans and "experts" don't watch him that closely, they see #s. He was good last year, top 10 type good last year but b/c he didn't have great fantasy #s he was deemed to have been bad by fans and "experts". He struggled down the stretch this year as did all phases of our team, to cvall him out is silly. You don't get to back to back title games w/average or below average QB play. I am anything but a typical fan, typical fans want to bring in Brett favre in 2008, typical fans want the big names, typical fans look at stats sheets and ignore all the good Sanchez has done for us, typical fans look at D rankings and insist we have a big time D- I know better. The plan is to extend him in the next year or so, we have our QB for the next decade barring injury.
Whose plan is that, yours? Why would they have internal discussions last week whether to even keep him if that was the Jets plan?
we have a good organization that plans for the future, I'm pretty confident they have a plan in place to extend Mark. They aren't kneejerk reaction, swaying in the wind fans who want everyone fired when we lose.
3 years isn't kneejerk. Extending his contract based on what you've seen is one of the worst ideas I've heard. You're right, the typical fan would never suggest to extend an overhyped, underperforming player.
Yes there are more problems with the Jets then just Sanchez but Sanchez is part of the problem. You act like Sanchez was the main reason they had any success in the last few years. You know that's never been the case EVEN in the playoffs. It was always the D, the Running game etc that allowed Sanchez any opportunity to look good. Snachez WAS NOT the reason the Jets upset the Patriots last year. Pittsburgh and GB had plenty of evidence of Ben and Rodgers capabilties from past years to keep both players around. Much more then the Jets have had with Sanchez. All I've been saying is that the Jets shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket, that drafting another potential QB in the draft or via free agency is just smart. But if you think the Jets have to rely ONLY on Sanchez as a franchise QB, go ahead. I like watching the Jets crash and burn.
If they bring in competition for Sanchez it won't be because he didn't make the playoffs. It will likely be because he still has turnover issues. Losing 8 fumbles isn't acceptable. He still carries the ball incorrectly when running sometimes (i.e., low at his knees with one hand). He still misses or can't hit in stride his receivers on short passes on occasion. We even see inaccuracy on check downs and screen passes. It happened yesterday, but it happens every game too, I was saying the same thing after the giants game. I don't think they should ditch Sanchez yet, simply because he still has another 2 years on his contract, has shown improvement every year, there isn't much out there that is better, and his problems should be fixable. The arguments that the WRs were a downgrade for last year, the line sucked (i.e., hunter) and the OC is crap are all valid. But that doesn't change the fact that Sanchez still fumbles too much, still makes bad choices based on game situations, and still has accuracy problems. I wouldn't mind seeing some competition being brought in.
Breaking News: Caldwell and Polian FIRED Looks like they are starting over, Schefters right about everything so far. Peyton to get cut next most likely.
