Rex: Jets had to throw because they were trailing in the second half.

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  1. Organized Chaos

    Organized Chaos Well-Known Member

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    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/air_attack_is_grounded_jC2DHwnUOh5doDDxV5NIFO

    "Yesterday, Ryan tried to deflect the criticism that Sanchez and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer have received onto himself.

    “I don’t think you blame things on one guy and if you are going to blame it one guy it should be the head coach,” Ryan said. “That’s what you get paid to do. I’m not ducking my responsibility. That was my responsibility to win that game. It didn’t get done. So, the criticism should be placed on me. I’ve got broad enough shoulders. I can take it.”

    Ryan said he does not blame Schottenheimer for the play-calling Saturday. He said the Jets had to throw because they were trailing in the second half."

    Really Rex? For most of the third quarter the score was 10-7. Hardly a game situation that requires a pass happy approach. Lets look at the 3rd quarter:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=311224020&period=3


    1st and 10 at NYJ 22 M.Sanchez pass incomplete deep right to D.Keller (D.Grant).

    2nd and 10 at NYJ 22 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete short middle to L.Tomlinson.

    3rd and 10 at NYJ 22 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to P.Burress (D.Tollefson).

    4th and 10 *PUNT*



    1st and 10 at NYJ 23 S.Greene left guard to NYJ 28 for 5 yards (A.Rolle).

    2nd and 5 at NYJ 28 S.Greene right guard to NYJ 36 for 8 yards (J.Pierre-Paul).

    1st and 10 at NYJ 36 S.Greene left guard to NYJ 40 for 4 yards (C.Blackburn).

    2nd and 6 at NYJ 40 M.Sanchez sacked at NYJ 34 for -6 yards (J.Tuck).

    3rd and 12 at NYJ 34 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete deep right to S.Holmes.

    4th and 12 at NYJ 34 *PUNT*

    1st and 10 at NYJ 28 S.Greene up the middle to NYJ 35 for 7 yards (M.Kiwanuka).

    2nd and 3 at NYJ 35 L.Tomlinson right guard to NYJ 41 for 6 yards (L.Joseph).

    1st and 15 at NYJ 36 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass short right to D.Keller to NYJ 43 for 7 yards (C.Webster).

    2nd and 8 at NYJ 43 M.Sanchez pass incomplete deep left to S.Holmes. PENALTY on NYJ, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYJ 43 - No Play.

    2nd and 18 at NYJ 33 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to D.Keller (R.Bernard).

    3rd and 18 at NYJ 33 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass short middle to L.Tomlinson to NYJ 42 for 9 yards (J.Williams).

    4th and 9 at NYJ 42 *PUNT*


    1st and 10 at NYJ 19 S.Greene left end pushed ob at NYJ 32 for 13 yards (C.Webster).

    1st and 10 at NYJ 32 M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to S.Holmes (C.Webster).

    2nd and 10 at NYJ 32 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass short middle to D.Keller to NYJ 38 for 6 yards (A.Rolle).

    3rd and 9 at NYJ 33 (Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to S.Holmes.

    4th and 9 at NYJ 33 *PUNT*

    *Giants TD with around 20 seconds left sets the score at 17-7*

    1st and 10 at NYJ 20 V.Ducasse reported in as eligible. M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to S.Greene.

    2nd and 10 at NYJ 20 S.Greene left guard to NYJ 21 for 1 yard (J.Pierre-Paul).

    End of Period

    Counting this all up, if we count the sack as a failed pass play (ie -6 in the pass play yards, and an incomplete) here are the results from the third quarter:

    7 rushes for 44 yards. (6.28 ypc)

    3 passes out of 13 attempts for 16 yards. (1.28 yards per pass play attempt)

    I can understand Rex is defending his coaches, but just how abysmal was the third quarter? Isn't there someone on the sidelines who pays attention to in game stats that can say "Hey maybe we should run the ball more...".

    It's hard to understand how in a pass first league we can have twice as many pass attempts as rush attempts and somehow not even get half as many pass yards as rush yards in a quarter.

    It's even harder to understand how none of the coaches decided to make an adjustment and go run heavy, or at least balanced.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    He's being diplomatic. The fuck do you expect the guy to say? He refuses to throw people under the bus, no matter the situation. They also asked him if Schotty's job was on the line, and he gave an almost Mangini-esque dancing routine of an answer.
     
  3. Organized Chaos

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    Yeah, I'm guessing by now it's pretty much assured that Shotty is gone and there might be some house cleaning on offense.

    I didn't even realize how bad the run/pass balance was in the 3rd Quarter until I bothered to go look.
     
  4. Burnz

    Burnz Well-Known Member

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    Ill all for Callahan but... Does anyone feel the need to bring in a TOTALLY NEW CS on Offense? I just feel we need a huge change not just a bump up
     
  5. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    He also said he didn't realize they had thrown it 60 times. Really Rex?

    I think Rex is a good coach for the most part, but everything out of his mouth at this point is clown shoes.
     
  6. Mambo9

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    Agreed... you listen to Rex because of the amusement, not because of what he says. Half of his weight is clichés...and he's one fat guy.
     
  7. sec314

    sec314 Well-Known Member

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    Great defensive mind but after 3 years its time for Rex to act like a head coach. THrowing the red flag and doing his best Sheckie Green impression doing his press conferece is not enough. Run the team during the game, not just the defense. Great breakdown, shows what BS he was. He will not say anything bad about anyone on the team, coaches, players, trainers. I think he needs to change.
     
  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    No shit its on you Rex. You are indeed the head coach
     
  9. Jetaho

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    I have no problem with Rex refusing to throw anyone under the bus in the press. He wants the accountability and it belongs with him. What he needs to do is manage his coaching staff. I don't know if Rex has the authority to fire Schotty or how much say he had in retaining Schotty in the first place, but it's clear to me that Rex and Schotty do not work together well.

    Since he got here, he and Schotty's philosophy's have clashed. Rex preaches ground and pound and Schotty gives him cute. Rex declares that we will re-commit to the running game and Schotty gives him 67 drop backs, EVEN WHEN THE RUNNING GAME IS DOMINATING.

    We have seen this little dance in each of Rex's three years, and to me, it is time for Schotty to go. Schotty's philosophy just isn't compatible with Rex's vision. Rex needs to hire someone who understands his philosophy and will implement it on the offensive side of the ball. If that doesn't pan out, Rex can go back to being a defensive coordinator.
     
  10. Bill Belichdouche

    Bill Belichdouche Well-Known Member

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    it was 10-7 going into the 3rd quarter, we didn't have to abandon the run
     
  11. skeleton_frames

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    The YPC vs YPP are the damning thing here. This will scratch Schotty's ticket out of here. Rex is defending one of his staff only until he has to. It's a management tactic, if he throws his coaches under the bus, who'll want to work with him.

    I still don't think Sanchez is an NFL QB, as he has piss poor play recognition, but I want to see him with a new OC, RT and a WR who has above average speed.
     
  12. JetsUK

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    I know we only follow the Jets and so obsess on their doings but seriously when do you see any coach throw a member of their coaching staff under the bus (especially during the season) in a press conference?

    What would it achieve other than offering some satisfaction to a few venting fans? You dont think that Brian knows his job is very much on the line at the moment?
     
  13. Organized Chaos

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    Rex's dad punch a fellow coach mid-game, but he was only a d-coodinator at the time.

    It would be great if Rex would slug Shotty mid game. lol
     
  14. magic77

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    I don't care what Rex says in a press conference. He keeps team business In House and that's all good with me.

    But man, looking at those stats makes me want to puke for 2 reasons. 1) We were obviously killing them with the run. 2) Sanchez/WR were not even close to on the same page
     
  15. Nilton

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    He won't throw anyone under the bus, that's clear.
     
  16. Baumeister

    Baumeister Well-Known Member

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    They were only down 3 points to start the 3rd. No way that warranted throwing the ball that much.
     
  17. soxxx

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    When we had the ball down 20-14 at the 50, those 3 straight passes killed us. We should went right down and made the game 21-20.
     
  18. bigmehl

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    And if they ran 3 straight times get stuffed and punted, everyone would be saying the Giants have bad Db's and Lber's why were we running so much. I agree 67 passes is too much , but the way to beat the Giants team is through the air.
     
  19. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    This explanation is idiotic.
    Sanchez attempted 28 passes in the first half ... and that doesnt even include sacks and scrambles, so it probably means he dropped back to pass at least 30 times before halftime.

    Plus, we opened the second half with three incomplete passes ... so that means we dropped back around 33-34 times in the first 31 minutes of gametime, in a 10-7 game.

    Ridiculous.
     
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  20. MexicanJet

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    Should have/could have been 10-10 or 10-3 us. That Cruz play was complete and utter gutless play from Cro.
     

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