While I'll be the first to admit the offense has a long way to go, a long way... To be fair to Mark, and just play a bit of devil's advocate to anyone who thinks the Jets offense has just been benefiting from going up against losing teams... The past two defenses we've faced, aren't necessarily the problems with their teams. Our offense has been challenged, I think. Pass rush and/or corners on the teams we've just recently played have been good. Prior to the 30 yard Sanchez to Holmes TD in the Redskins game, the Redskins had only allowed 5 TDs to an opposing team's WR all season. WRs don't habitually score on the Redskins. We did. That obviously skewed when they played the Patriots today, as well, but again, you guys get the point. Likewise, KC's defense had been holding teams down, and putting up a fight the past few weeks... NE, Pittsburgh, Chicago (all playoff teams or contenders) just to name a few, had issues putting up points against this KC defense, at least initially. While the NE score ended up 34-3, KC hung in there for a long time, thanks to their defense. And, Pittsburgh barely got out of KC with a win, with a final score of 13-9, and all of Pitt's receivers were held to roughly two to four catches, including Wallace, who they held to two catches. We had five touchdowns against them. Including one that picked on the KC corners when we targeted Holmes for his TD. Another bit of praise for our offense and Sanchez... Sanchez leads an offense that has Holmes and Burress, in the top 16 of all skill players, not just WRs, but all skill guys, in the league, for receiving TDs. Keller is in the top 41. Likewise, Greene is in the top 23 of all skill players, but for rushing TDs. Obviously, those ranks are fluid, and don't include numbers from the league today, but, Holmes and Greene added to their totals today, both having gotten TDs, so I suspect they'll hold steady or move up. That's... damned good. The only other teams that have multiple skill players on offense represented that high for receiving TDs on the season, or rushing TDs on the season, are GB, NE, NO, Dallas, NYG. Pretty good company, I think.
Bottom line is that Sanchez threw for less then 200 yards in each of the last three games. He has played good but hasn't exactly carried the team like some of you championing his pro bowl inclusion would like to have everyone believe. I don't know why people are getting caught up in his stats. Instead the question should be asked did he play well or not? Would you say he played particularly well against the Bills (4TD game means shit you know he didn't play well)? Against the Redskins? Clearly not the Broncos or Patriots. So in the last 5 games he has played very well...once...that was today... and he threw for less then 200 yards.
So, just so I am straight, NFL teams win games by getting more yards than the other team, right? TDs mean nothing. Right, great, now that we have that straight lets see what the standings should be.
Your bottom line is bullshit. You clearly suggested Sanchez was incapable of playing well against good teams until I brought several up that he had played well against. You then suggested that you'd never mentioned those teams. At which point I pointed out that you clearly had suggested Sanchez was incapable of playing well against good teams with the "denying reality" comment after you'd mentioned how bad the recent opponents were. Now you're back to your original position without missing a beat. Some people fully earn their trip to the ignore list and you just hit the jackpot. Enjoy.
wow thats a nice (and surprising) stat right there. you wouldnt think it with the season the offense has been having..
I actually wasn't suggesting that he can't play well against good teams.. What I was suggesting was that for MDNick to say that I was undermining Sanchez' performance without acknowledging bad opponents meant he was essentially denying the reality that the opponents were indeed bad.
You're really proud of that 26 score number. As if 5 scrambles from the 2 yard line are indicative of good quarterback play.
A Derp? How about the fact that the offense was on the 2 yard line, also how about a QB with the skill set to successfully sell a hand off and successfully find the end zone.... Lets ignore all this because its detrimental to our argument right?
He hasn't really improved since his rookie year. He's still throwing 5 interceptions a game, i should know i've watched every single one of them.
Wait so you are supposed to count rushing TD's when considering your TD-INT ratio? By that logic I might as well include fumbles which Sanchez has 8, 6 lost. So his TD to turnover ratio is actually 26-17. Not that great.
Are you a troll or a dummy? I never said anything about TD-INT Ratio nor did your quote that I was referencing. You dismiss Sanchez's running TD as a "2 yard scramble." Sanchez has a upper level ability to sell the run and this should not be undervalued.
I don't feel like checking the stats of all the QB's in the league but I bet the ratio and totals are better than most QB's this year. It's also improvement which he has done for all 3 years of his career. He isn't putting up all pro numbers but when you consider that the best QB in the league was still riding the bench at this point in his career and then took another year to become a top level QB it's tough to have a negative opinion of his career so far. Only a small handful of guys come into the league and look great right away.
You didn't say anything about TD-INT but others are bringing that up. Then I bring up a valid point about fumbles which you completely ignore in favor of Sanchez' running TD's. Meanwhile he only has 1 PA scramble for a TD this year. I know he is good at playaction I don't know why you keep saying it is undervalued. That's not even part of the discussion.
