I'm really starting to wonder what BS has on the Jets that he's been able to keep his job for so long. Someone mentioned maybe Woody is friends with his dad, wouldn't be surprised. But like Carton mentioned on WFAN this morning, the Jets have strangely been going out of their way to play down the Mason trade, with press conferences here and there and lengthly "explanations". Mason was invisible this year, there's no need to explain trading him. The only reason for freaking out like that is they want to shut everyone up about his ranting about the offense, which was implicitly pointed the finger at Brian Schottenheimer. You can also read between the lines from what Holmes and others have said too. The Jets seem to be obsessed like a soviet dictator to send out their secret police and beat the shit out of anyone who dares point out what a turd BS is. They want to protect and keep him at all costs, what the fuck?
didnt listen to carton but now that u mention it, this mason trade is getting ALOT of conversation... theres no need for all this explanation. mason hasnt done shit, kerley is faster, younger and showed us he can compete. theres no point in keeping 2 ancient receivers when we need to see if kerley is real deal or not. if we were to keep plax n mason as our starters all year, didnt give kerley a legit chance, then we lose both plax n mase next year and we put kerley out there and he sucks were in a bad position... i dont know why the organization (minus the players) are so confident in schitty... he has NEVER been effective, no matter who the QB was very, very strange
I think getting a 7th rounder for mason was a great job by tanny Sent from my Vanilla Tazz using Tapatalk
Sometimes a player just does things that make it impossible for him to remain with a team any longer. It's a question of how the organization handles it. You guys know this......heck......look at how you got Holmes:grin:
They like Shotty. They aren't like alot of their fans. If they got rid of him, he'd find another coaching job in 10 seconds.
A lot of Steeler fans would take him in a heart beat over Arians! But then we would take some guy from the street over Arians:grin:
[YOUTUBE]dOzGcqUSfPY[/YOUTUBE] at the 23 second mark, Sanchez says how the players feel. You have proof OP!
Maybe it's not Schottenheimer. Maybe it's Ryan. Schottenheimer has to use the offensive system that the head coach wants. If Ryan wants to run the ball against the Pats instead of trying to throw against their suspect pass defense, then that's what Schotty has to do. I don't pretend to know the relationship between Ryan and Schottenheimer, but Bills saw something similar unfold in Buffalo with Jauron and his OCs. Jauron was unwilling to take risks, especially on offense, and the offense the Bills ran was so simplistic and predictable that scoring a single offensive TD was about all they could muster in a game. A lot of the criticisms that I see Jets fans making here are eerie echoes of what Bills fans were complaining about between 2006 and 2009, especially in regards to the OL, the running game, the QB, and the lack of downfield passes. IMO, in today's NFL, the kind of offense the Jets want to run just doesn't seem to work. Unless a team is willing and able to stretch the field, defenders are going to park close to the LOS and shut down the run and the short passing game. Maybe a team with a lot better OL and/or RBs can succeed, but the Jets don't have the talent. Probably no team does, which is why virtually all the successful teams have much more wide-open offenses.
A run 1st offense will work provided you can keep them honest. The jets just can't keep any team honest with the lack of a deep threat. They've thrown 2 balls past 30 yards so far this yr, so why would anyone try to protect against the deep ball? You cannot run consistently when the box is always stacked.
It should be clear by now to even only see red angry Schotty Haters that Schotty is at least trying to have the kind of O Ryan wants. but before I get to the rest of this post, a word about the OP. The implied assumption in the OP is that only one other understanding than the official party line on Mason's trade can fit. Without intending to get into the whole BS nonsense, I had offered the theory on another thread that what the Mason move was really about was a decision to pull back from going all out this season since the team ain't making the SB no matter what, and they know it, so cut his salary and get another draft pick for the future. Whether that is true or not, the OP's offered theory is not the only one, and there's plenty wrong with it. First off, even if it were true that Mason got cut in retaliation for complaining, that neither means he was right to complain or that the FO thinks there was any merit to Mason's complaint. In fact the irony here is that ANY FO would be MORE likely to cut Mason to the extent they felt his criticism was off base. So his being cut hardly shows any agreement with the Schotty Haters Club. Enough about that. More intriguing is your last paragraph. I have seen this argument made in a number of places this week. The argument is in effect that changes to the rules and the calls zebras make have increased the benefits of having a wide open passing attack. If one assumes that to be accurate, for sake of discussion, then Ryan's overtly stated goal of having a ground and pound O that complements his D seems outmoded if not downright reactionary. Of course I am also skeptical if the Jets have the right personnel for a wide open passing attack. Especially at Qb. But even before you get to that point, it is fair to say Ryan does not want that. Maybe this is the root of the problem on O.
is that true?? - only 2 balls past 30 yards. or are u just noting completions? if its attempts than ryan/schott have some splaining to do.
i saw a stat table posted in another thread yesterday it said were 5 for 11 at throws at 21-30 yards, and 0 for 2 at throws 31 yards + worst thing ive ever seen in my life... not strecthing the defense to open up the field and a struggling o-line = the reason why we cant get our run game going
I read Rex Ryan's entire book and it's filled with praise for Brian Schottenheimer. Rex repeatedly says how lucky he is to have Schotty on his staff and how he believes Schotty will be a head coach in the NFL very soon. He stated a few times that he doesn't want to lose him as an OC, and he's echoed those statements in press conferences as well. Whether or not those statements are true or whether or not you agree with that opinion is up to you. The point is, Rex has allowed B.S. to handle all of the offense. From what I've read, I don't think Rex even goes to the offense meetings. I really don't think he has much idea what goes on with running the offense, and for that reason I'm sure he's dependent on him, or at least very very cautious about the idea of firing his OC. All those things considered, I don't see Rex firing Schotty. I really don't see it happening. Rex is too hands off with the offense to step up and axe his OC. We're stuck with Brian Schottenheimer for at least the rest of the year, gentlemen.
Good point except you are missing something. If the OLine is giving up a QB hit in 2.8 seconds Jerry Rice's DNA spliced to Johnny Lam's couldn't get open 30+ yards in 2.8 seconds. A player with a 4 second 40 means 28 yards in 2.8 seconds and the ball has to be on its way and receiver open. How are they gonna get 30+ yards? Not happening. +1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
All of this is likely true. I hope Rex goes to at least some offensive meetings and I wish he was more hands on. If the people that truly hate schotty are correct in the assessment that know every play before it happens how has Rex not noticed this and stepped in? He is a defensive guy that has made a great career out of seeing offensive tendencies and attacking them but he can't see it on his own teams offense? One thing I took away from the bill Belichick documentary on NFL network is that he is pretty involved in t he offense even though he is known as a defensive guy. He was shown leading an offensive meeting and in his office taking ideas from Brady on what he wanted to run that week. We need Rex doing that type of stuff too.
Why dont we use Santonio as a deep threat. He is by far the quickest and fastest receiver we have Sent from my Vanilla Tazz using Tapatalk
