To make the playoffs this year

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  1. nyJETS0511

    nyJETS0511 Banned

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    To make the playoffs this year.....Rex will have to blow chan gailey 2x
     
  2. Catt_County

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    I think the short passes were designed to happen that way. They were throwing short even before Jones went down. They ran and screen passed Philly to death -- and it was only late in the game that Philly came close to shutting either down.
     
  3. Catt_County

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    QFT. There are some remarkable QBs in the NFL these days, but P Manning and Brady are in another whole universe from everybody else. Calling them the "best ever" is no exaggeration IMO.
     
  4. felker

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    It could happen but I think it's more likely a game the Pats win late or even Dallas wins. There are a number of factors favoring Dallas here:

    1. Dallas unusually healthy coming off a bye week.
    2. NE emotionally drained after big game with Jets.
    3. Ryan brothers collaboration.
    4. Dallas matches up well in some areas with NE.

    Still I think NE goes 13-3 or 14-2 this year.
     
  5. The 1985er

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    these next 2/3 games are the biggest of the season. we need to sweep the next two or else things become way too difficult, but the good thing is that the teams that we would be fighting for wc spots with are even more suspect (titans, bills, chiefs, raiders, browns)
     
  6. Section 227. Row 5

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    Brady is an automated, score-producing machine. No other QB in this era comes close. It's not Belichick, it's Brady.
     
  7. slimjasi

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    :rofl::rofl:

    How the fuck are the Patriots losing 4 games in a row??
     
  8. RMorin

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    Listen Jet fans, there are only 3-5 games left that we'll be underdogs. People are worrying too much at this point what others will do, until week 14 you can really only focus on yourself. 10-6 gets a playoff spot more then half of the years. If we don't beat MIA x2, KC, DEN, NYG, BUF at least once, one of either WASH or PHI and one of either NE or SD ... Guess what? We don't deserve to be a playoff team. If we don't make the playoffs it won't be because of tie breaking hyjinks, it will be because we lost to teams we should have beat.
     
  9. PJ4Ever

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    Boom, that's it. 10-6 gets you in about 95% of the time. So, we need to go 8-3 the rest of the way. You put it perfectly.

    4 Must Wins:

    Dolphins (2)
    Chiefs
    Broncos

    And we need to win 4 of these 7:
    Bills (2)
    Giants
    Redskins
    Eagles
    Chargers
    Patriots

    Looking at it this way, doesn't it seem more feasible?
     
  10. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    ha, it actually does, and I do believe (because I try to be more of an optimistic poster) that this team could win 5 in a row in the 2nd half, but they must go 4-3 before the bye.

    Beating SD and the Fins then makes the 10-6 record easier to sell. I do still hold that the Jets cannot lose another divisional game all season. They can't lose to the Pats at home, and they can't lose to the Bills once, or else the dogfight for the wildcard will be that much more severe. AFC record is shitty right now at 1-3. It has to improve to 7-5. Tall fucking order. That's where the 5 wins in a row comes in. Tall order as well.

    The chiefs and broncos better be wins, or else the "fire someone" chants will only get louder. The chiefs will have no running game, and Bowe will be shut down. The Broncos have Tebow at QB. He'll be a H-back by 2013.

    The NFC East is fucking weird, but this could be the first season that I can remember that the Jets actually have a chance to beat up on that division. If the Jets could actually sweep the division, they'd be in great shape for 11-5. The NFC East doesn't match up well with the Jets, only and only if the Jets learn to stop the run like they used to.


    It comes down to these two games before the bye. Win both, stay alive. Lose one, start looking at who's available in the mid round of the draft.
     
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  11. Catt_County

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    Ummm ... Being a dog or a favorite doesn't determine anything, so it's irrelevant.
     
  12. RMorin

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    You could have taken my statement one of two ways and either way you're wrong.

    If you are talking about vegas dogs/favorites then you are correct in that it is not an exact prediction of the actually advantage, but instead the advantage that must be given so that bettors will be 50/50 on each side of the bet. Teams with giant national fan bases like the Steellers and Cowboys will often have artificially inflated lines because fans tend to bet with their favorite team on the whole. This however does not mean that there is not at least a loose connection between vegas lines and perceived advantage.

    If you meant simply "considered the favorite" then your statement makes even less sense. In general pundits can pick straight up games pretty well, ESPN analysts are anywhere between 70-75% in picking games straight up. So yes favorites/dogs are an indicator of performance.

    So my initial statement in that there are probably only 4 games that we are considered dogs for the rest of the season absolutely suggests that 10-6 is a feasible record.
     
  13. truthbtold

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    I look at it this way ... we need to have 9 wins going into the last game against a Miami team that will probably be mailing it in by December.

    That means 7 more wins by New Years Eve ...

    We should be able to beat these 3 teams at home ... Miami, Buffalo, KC
    If we can't do that, then the rest is a moot point.
    The harder part will be winning 2 of these tougher home games ... NYG, NE, SD
    If we pull it off, that's 5 wins.

    Then we'll need two wins in four road games before we get to Miami ...@Wash, @Buffalo, @Denver, @Philly. Certainly doable ... 7 wins.

    That would give us 9 wins heading into the final game and I'd like our chances for the playoffs with a severe beatdown of the Dolphins.
     
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  14. benhamean

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    The Bills can RUN. After the Oakland game and the Lawfirm drive against NE that should be a major concern. Bills are still tough, even if they can't fling bombs all day.
     
  15. Catt_County

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    The operative phrase that you're ignoring is, "that's why they play the games and run the races." Being considered the favorite to win anything means nothing, be it on the football field or on the racetrack, once the whistle blows or the starting gate springs open. It's actually winning on the scoreboard or at the wire that counts NOT what some gambler or writer thought before the contest, and it's that performance that determines future favoritism.
     
  16. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    That's why people saying we have no shot at the playoffs are ridiculous.

    That said, the way we're playing right now, it's no guarantee we do that. And even if we do, there's no guarantee 10-6 gets in.

    2010
    NFC: Giants go 10-6, miss playoffs
    AFC: Jets are 11-5 for 6 seed, 10-6 would have missed out.

    2009:
    NFC: Packers are 11-5 for 6 seed, 10-6 would have missed out.
    AFC: Both AFC wild cards finish 9-7 (two 9-7 teams get in, two miss out.)

    2008:
    NFC: Eagles are 9-6-1 for 6 seed.
    AFC: Patriots miss out at 11-5. #6 seed is 11-5.

    2007:
    NFC: Washington is #6 seed at 9-7
    AFC: Cleveland goes 10-6, misses playoffs.

    2006:
    NFC: Giants make playoffs at 8-8
    AFC: KC makes playoffs at 9-7

    2005:
    NFC: Washington is #6 seed at 10-6
    AFC: KC misses playoffs at 10-6


    In the last 6 years, 4 teams 10-6 or better have missed the playoffs. And there have been 2 other years where 10-6 wouldn't have been good enough.

    That's why the 3 biggest games left on our schedule will be Buffalo 2x and San Diego. We need to start getting wins, we need to knock down some of our opponents, and we need to start earning tiebreakers.
     
  17. RMorin

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    Dude, no one is saying that on any given sunday a team will or won't win. It is that certain teams are better then others. The Packers are favorites against the Rams this week. If you think that the Rams are just as likely to win as the Packers you are nuts. It is a prediction, which is exactly what i'm talking about. We can certainly predict what will happen in the future based on the past. The NFL is not a roullette wheel, there are teams that are simply better then others. If you don't think this is true you are an idiot.
     
  18. RMorin

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    There are some problems with your assessment. You are injecting a fictious team into the standings while not eliminating another. For example: The Jets could have been 9-7 last year and made the playoffs (next closest team was 8-8 Jags), so saying 10-6 wouldn't cut it is not true for last year.
     
  19. GreenGreek

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    The Oakland loss hurt. We already have 3 conference losses. We're not getting to 11+ wins, so tie breakers will be critical. As it stands, we've already lost tie-breakers against the Raiders & Ravens. We better hope they win their divisions.

    We need to sweep the Fish & Bills, and beat the Chiefs & Broncos. If we don't, we're done.

    The Chargers game is also potentially a must win, unless they or the Raiders nosedive.

    Our realistic shot is 10-6 with tie breakers falling the right way. Sweep the Fish & Bills, beat the Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers & 1 NFC East team, and we have a decent chance. Split with the Bills or lose to the Chargers, and the tie breakers won't be nearly as friendly.
     
  20. LolTolhurst

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    Yup...Buffalox2 and SD are the season. If they split with the Bills and beat SD, then the Pats game later on in the year is must-win. I assume NYJ will sweep a hapless Miami team.
     

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