I stand corrected. Neither guy played in week 17. My Bad. However, I was not the guy that posted the 'in the last 16 games' thingy. And in the Previous 2010 meeting he put up a whopping 128 Yards. The actual truth is, he had 3 4 TD games, and one 3 TD game over the last 16. The rest of the performances have been average. And let's look closer at this season. 4 Wk1. 3 Week 2., 2 Week 3. Then Zero, and 1. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest, that the early success was defenses not having film on Buffalo running Gailey's Offense. And the more film that becomes available, the less successful they've been. In any event, you have a middle of the road guy that has had a few big games. Road Playoff wins...not so much. Now 5 weeks don't make a season, but they faced their best opponents in weeks 1-3.
Cassel led a crappy Chiefs team to the playoffs, throwing 27 TDs and 7 Int last year. He had a good year last year. Hasselbeck has been very solid this year for Tennessee. Fitzpatrick is in the same boat, but I think he's been slightly better from watching the 2, but they're close. I put Sanchez right around both of their levels, upgrading Hasselbeck a bit for how he's played this year, and downgrading Cassel for his performance. You can make a case for either one. He's not playing well this year, but his 2010 season was 4x better than anything Sanchez has ever done. Sanchez deserves credit for getting to the 2 AFC Championship games, but remember, he didn't play particularly well against the Colts last year. He played well against New England and Pittsburgh for sure, and I was very happy with the way he played, but it's not like he was unbelievable. He's had some big games for us, those 2 playoff games, the home game vs NE last year being the 2 primary examples. But other than that, he's been a below average quarterback, one of the worst starters in the league.
:rofl: In 13 games in 2010, Fitzpatrick threw for 3000 yards, 23 TDs, and 15 INTs with a 81.6 QB rating. #22 rated QB in the NFL. In 16 games in 2010, Sanchez threw for 3291, 17 TDs, and 13 INTs with a 75.3 QB rating. #27 rated QB in the NFL. 2010 - advantage Fitzpatrick. In 5 games in 2011, Fitzpatrick threw for 1231 yards, 10 TDs, 4 INTs with a 96.4 QB rating. #7 rated QB in the NFL. In 5 games in 2011, Sanchez threw for 1171 yards, 8TDs, 5 INTs with an 80.4 QB rating. #18 rated QB in the NFL. 2011 - advantage Fitzpatrick. Of course, stats don't tell the full story, most notably that Sanchez gave up a pick six and a fumble that was returned for a TD against Baltimore, but the fact is that Fitzpatrick was better than Sanchez in 2010 and is significantly better than Sanchez in 2011. However, you can pretend that Sanchez is better if it makes you feel better.
over the years the jets organization has been so desperate for a franchise QB that some jets fans have been willing to settle for average QB play and insist it's being played at an elite level. case in point noodle pennington. was a mere average QB but some tried to put him in the elite status, where we all know now he never belonged! same with nagle, todd and obrien. average qb's that some jets fans desperately tried to claim were top level elite QB's. right now, we have the very same thing with sanchez. at best he's been a good game manager, but never close to elite. he's played well in a few playoff games so some fans want to make that an arguement that he's on the path to elite stardom. fact is, the jets defense is what makes this team a winner. without rex's defense, this team is below average at best!
There's simply no way to separate talent from scheme here. Sanchez has some of the worst numbers in the NFL. Neither I, nor anyone else can really tell, whether that's the result of his own talent level (slow release, poor reads/decisions, etc...) or whether they're just not using him correctly. But there's gotta be some reason to explain why the guy doesn't throw for a lot of yards, doesn't make many pass attempts, and yet still has a low completion percentage and a high interception rate.
Im sorry but I have to reiterate that Sanchez's slowww release, poor defense reads and inaccuaracy would bite this offense in the ass regardless of coordinator
I admit that I loved Shotty so much from his first year here it took me a long time to start hating on him. Last weeks game was my official move to the dark side on Shotty. I'm willing to give Sanchez another year or two before I turn on him. In defense of Sanchez there are times watching him that I truly believe he doesn't suck.
not digging the OL ratings ... theres no way our o-line is equal to houstons, theyre elite run blockers and are pretty good in pas pro too cleveland, cinci, oak and tenn all probably have better OLs than us, too (and balt is at least on par) ... but theres no way the colts are equal
I agree. A poor offensive scheme, especially one that's too conservative and tries minimize risk with a short passing game, is an offensive disaster. When teams figure out that an offense is NOT willing to go deep on them, they crowd the LOS, effectively killing the short passing game and the running game. The only way a short passing game works is if, and only if, an offense proves it will go deep if the DBs don't take care of business. You really can't evaluate a QB playing in this kind of crappy offense. We had this in Buffalo for 3+ years under Jauron, and Trent Edwards displayed a lot of the same problems that Sanchez is criticized for. He also looked good as a rookie, then better as a sophomore, but never really progressed beyond that as a third year QB. Sanchez seems to have followed the same career curve. When Edwards got to play in a real, NFL caliber offense, however, he crapped the bed. Enter Fitzpatrick who has starred in Gailey's system. IMO, you really don't know, and won't know, how good or bad Sanchez real is until/unless he gets to play in something resembling a modern NFL offensive scheme. This may be true, but it may also be a function of a poorly designed offensive scheme or an offensive philosophy that doesn't fit the QB. I was never, ever impressed by Jason Campbell when he played in the short passing, check-down happy offenses in Washington. He seems to have improved immensely playing in Oakland where they not only let him, but encourage him, to throw the long ball. The Oakland offensive scheme just seem to suit him so much better.
lol I was thinking the same thing. I think most of you underate your WR core, its by far better then ours right now. Especially with us being injury depleted at the position. Even though I love Stevie, I would gladly trade our receivers for the Jets receivers. As for the Sanchez/Fitzpatrick debate. Sanchez is the better QB, definitely has the better arm and way more accurate. Fitz is in the better system and at this point is better at reding defenses and adjusting pre-snap then Sanchez.
