Aaron Maybin

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  1. Jetaho

    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    Maybin will get pushed around in the running game, and Rex knows that. My hope is that our D continues to be strong on 1st and 2nd down, which will be a challenge with BT out. We can bring in Maybin on 3rd and long. Nothing worse than seeing a QB like Brady stand behind a giant wall while 5 of our guys do nothing. If Crazy Maybin is running around all frantic that might give him something else to think about - or better yet, Maybin might plug him in the turf. Ah, sweet sackness.
     
  2. rholt168

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    Obvious joke about Woodson winning DPOY over Revis.
     
  3. patfanken

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    Here's why I'm not worried about Aaron Maybin.(at least based on that single play). I remember it, and they showed it several times in replay. There is no questioning his speed, but he ran so far from the outside that the LT never even had to make contact with him. The only reason he made the play was coverage.

    Flacco dropped back. Maybin runs right past him without a hand being layed on him. Flacco sets and doesn't throw. Eventually he starts to feel pressure, real or imagined, from the middle and moves to his right winding up outside the tackle box near the LOS when Maybin, who had run himself out of the play comes back to make a very good strip sack.

    My point is that it wasn't a great pass rush by any means. The LT never had to tough him at all, because Maybin had run HIMSELF out of the play. If Flacco had made the throw on time. Maybin would have never even been close. If Flacco had stayed in the pocket. Maybin would never have been close.

    This is like the McKnight KO return. Jet fans want to turn this kid into the next coming of Barry Sanders, when all he did was run straight ahead for a hundred yds. The only time he had to make a cut was when he head faked the Kicker at the 50. Great execution by the blockers, but there isn't a 4.5 player in the league who couldn't have brought that KO back, give how good the blocking was.

    Same with Maybin. He originally takes himself out of the play, then finds himself ttill in it when Flacco decides to go for sightseeing tour. of the right hash. To his credit, Maybin DID do a good job once he got there in creating the fumble, but this wasn't a "pass rush" that going to scare any OT in the league

    Again, I'm only basing this opinion on this single play, because its on this single play that Jet fans see hope for their lack of a pass rush.

    Against the Pats, Maybin's only chance at a sack is going to be if no one blocks him.....just like against the Ravens
     
  4. Jake

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    Maybin's size makes him pretty much just a 3rd down/dime defender. We'll see if he's learned any passrush moves or not, soon OTs will adapt.
     
  5. patfanken

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    It will be interesting to see if the Pats will stay committed to the run game. The Jets OLBs are very suspect, and the Pats got most of their 180 yds against the Raiders rushing outside the T's. Both Solder and Light are excellent run blockers who have good enough feet to stick to DEs and OLBs. Gronk is also an excellent run blocker.

    I think the Pats will have some luck running the ball. However I question whether they have the Patience to do it consistently. Brady has been a pass first guy since 2007
     
  6. F Miami

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    I love it. Everyone was totally crapping on this guy a couple of weeks ago and now he's an all-star. As a Penn State guy, I'm glad he's had a good game. I hope we can coach him up and he can string together a few more.
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    The speed is great, technique would be nicer.

    Its been said in previous posts, coverage sacks will be his specialty, when he's washed out of the play, and then he hustles back to blindside the QB from behind.

    Rex will probably do this, because he's smart, which is use Maybin to push upfield and overload the gap that Maybin creates between the LT and LG, and have players who can actually use leverage and technique to beat a match up and make the sack.

    Maybin as the speedy decoy would be great. What I do hope, and this is the Jets fan in me, is that with a full offseason standing up and coaching, he can actually be a pest off the edge. Not a sack master, I think he'll never ever reach that plateau. But to at least cause enough problems for an OL for others to make the play.

    The Jets still need to draft a OLB or two in the next draft.
     
  8. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Yeah right.

    He still has all the same short comings he did before. He got a sack based on his speed and hustle, which is great. He was blocked out of the play by the tackle using one arm originally which is a technique issue. He is on the jets so I hope he gets better on the technique front as the speed and hustle are great things to have.

    Seems more like a case of him being one of very few bright spots in a terrible game.
     
  9. MikeDevito

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    Biased Pats fans opinion right here.
     
  10. TommyGreen

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    Technique you can coach, speed you cannot. I know it's been pointed out before, but I have faith in our coaching staff to get him to a decent level. The Bills got nothing, but I see him as being way more coachable than a guy like Gholston. Maybin showed some real fire last week.
     
  11. patfanken

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    Accurate and well said. If you drafted him, he's been a disaster. If you picked him up for nothing and are playing him the minimum, then he becomes a good value situational player. He can add speed to your coverage teams, and on occasional passing downs as described above. A nice bottom of the roster pick up....with some upside
     
  12. patfanken

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    It's not an "opinion" Mike, its a description of what happened. Just because I'm a Pats fan, doesn't make it less real. As of right now Maybin's highest use would be best described as "cover sack specialist"
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  13. Rex's Sweater Vest

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    Maybin will have 2 sacks tomorrow. mark it down. I can see Brady taking a second too long to throw.
     
  14. laxin

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    Dont agree with the "occasional passing downs" bc right now, hes probably a top three passrusher on out team and has only played 7 snaps on defense. He has something no one else on the jets have- speed, raw speed. He also has the drive to never give up on a play. I know as a patriots fan you wont see what he actually can provide for this team
     
  15. Royce Parker

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    Maybe that's true, but that's exactly what we need against the Pats. Too many times we've seen the Jets play great coverage while our front 3/4 get stonewalled for so long that Brady still has time to wait for someone to eventually come open and make a play. Hopefully having a speedster like Maybin will cut down on those situations. Even if he does get pushed upfield and have to come back to make the play that's still better than guys just getting stuffed at the line and giving the QB virtually unlimited time to survey the field.

    It's way too early to know if his flashes last week were a sign of good things to come or whether he just had a lucky game. Hopefully he gets some significant PT tomorrow and we see some more of those flashes.
     
  16. NYDeadEye

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    The way I see it, he hasn't been here that long, and during his tenure here, he's done pretty damn well so far.

    He may not be the flashiest in terms of technique, but with his raw skills, he's gotten several rushes, and a strip-sack. To me, that says potential.
     
  17. patfanken

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    Hey its a reasonable hope for a team that has trouble rushing the passer. In NE we don't ever have that "hope". Every year Pats fans wait for BB to use one of the myriad of draft picks he has on a high round classic speed rusher, and every year he disappoints us......thank God.

    Most of us have finally come to the conclusion that when drafting a high pick pass rusher you are more likely to get a Gholston or Maybin, than a Ware or VMiller. Especially when you consider that you can luck into guys like Harrison, Wake, and Dummerville without wasting a draft pick at all. I've come to the conclusion that the best pass rushers are developed over time and rarely come into the league as legit one on one pass rush threats.
     
  18. JfaulkNYJ

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    Jets have pretty good coverage. QBs are able to sit in the pocket for 5 seconds, and fire. If this clown Maybin can disrupt the QB at all..it's a win from what we have had.

    Alot of teams scheme to let a runner loose, and Rex tries to also scheme blocking confusion, so a rusher can get a free rush. nobody thinks Maybin is an all pro.

    Our OLine, and running game has sucked, so why wouldnt fans get excited over McKnight? Especially when a handful of us were excited when we first drafted him? He acted like a bum last year in training camp, but was a serious threat in college. He could be a good player.

    after watching vernon gholston embarrass himself for years, and seeing another bust come here, you have to realize why we are excited. especially when we have lacked speed at that position for some time now.
     
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    Obvious joke about Sanchez throwing interceptions and fumbles that have led to 6pts for the other team.
     
  20. F Miami

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    Exactly. I need to see more before I anoint him the next big thing.
     

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