Sanchez himself calls the offense "predictable"

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  1. Br4d

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    The point is that Sanchez was covering the ball well when he got buried last year and even up into the Cowboys game on the dropback sacks. His turnover there was on a scramble to the left when somebody came up behind him and popped the ball out of his hand. That turnover should not have occurred. It represented the beginning of the pressure getting to him as ball security became secondary to keeping the play alive.

    Today ball security was almost non-existent for him. Yes, he had no time to react to what was going on because the blitzers were there almost immediately, but last year he went down and kept the ball several times in similar situations. Last night he lost that ability, and in truth he has been getting worse and worse at this particular thing, holding onto the ball under pressure, from the Cowboys game to the Raiders game to the fiasco last night.

    His ability to run the Jets offense under pressure, given the limitations that the offensive line and the play calling are creating, is crumbling. The pressure that he will now begin facing from the media and the fans is likely to make the situation worse. Something is going to have to change or Sanchez and the Jets are in deep trouble, much more than they've been in either of the two previous seasons.

    One ironic thing about the turnovers last night is that if Schotty hadn't modified the offense to help Sanchez get rid of the ball quicker they might not have occurred. Both fumbles happened very quickly and primarily because Sanchez was already setup to pass even though the defender had a free run at him. In other circumstances Sanchez might well have had the ball in tighter and managed to get it covered up when he got hit and avoid the fumbles. Instead the ball was extended in the beginning of his throwing motion and came out.

    Unintended consequences: help Sanchez get the ball out faster and turn him into a fumble machine when he's hit almost instantly in the process of trying to do that.
     
  2. TNJet

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    I am just glad that Schotty is being called out by the players. I have begged for 4 years for that fuck to be fired , but the FO loves them some schotty. Who the fuck doesn't have max protect at your own 9 yd line? Schotty! That first TO TD set the pace for the game. Runs up the middle at Ngata for christ sake is just moronic.

    Get a clue Rex, send him packing. Tanny you can cut great vets but you can't cut the moron that can't produce more than 3 offensive points?

    We need to draft OL in the first 3 rounds next year of next years draft. That's the first step to improving. We need a starting RT and depth.

    Also, a big Fuck You goes out to the officiating, but Goodell the pats fan he is will not do anything about it.

    Rules committee the review of every touchdown is just stupid. Hope you change this quick.

    Go Jets!
     
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    They have to review every touchdown because the officials as good as they are, are far from perfect. There were many blown calls last night that were not touchdowns. I almost wish every play was reviewable. If the TV announcers can call it out before the next play, the official in the booth should stop play and get the call right.

    That said, it would have made no difference in the outcome last night.
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Did I write or imply that Callahan is NOT the first one to get blamed for the offensive line?



    Of course he's the first one to get blamed for the offensive line's ineptitude.



    Cato, who do you want fired, if anyone at all?



    I have news for you. There won't be more than one coach fired. Hell, we might not even see one of these fuckers fired during the season.
     
  5. maynardsmyhero-uk

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    Having watched the game on a laptop in a UK airport ...I came to the conclusion... Ducasse is a fucking disaster , our oline depth pre season stunk and now it comes back to haunt us big time. We have a 2nd tier RT / Average LG and waiver wire rejects at centre...our project RT / LG / Ballboy is a wasted pick who basically chauferred Ngata to Sanchez.

    Our whole offense is a mess , no identity , seemingly little coherent game planning and crisis mode is in full effect

    Schottenheimer is a coach who seems to struggle to develop a rhythm and any kind of Plan B....all I can say is thank fuck I didn't stay up til 3.30am to watch it!!!
     
  6. Don

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    The problem is, obviously, that it is harder to fire a coordinator mid-season than it is to fire a head coach unless you replace him with one of his assistants who won't be any better. I know he wants no part of it but their best bet would be to hire Tom Moore who had some experience with the team this summer. Won't happen though and if anything is done it probably won't happen until the off-season.
     
  7. nyjetsrule

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    to be fair, Sanchez said post game in both fumble/td's he thought the guys (reed/ngata) were going to be blocked. But protection miscues led to them.

    For the reed play, they put a clock on it, 2.04 seconds from snap to sack. How many qb's get the ball out in that time span regularly? Peyton? thats about it.

    the OL was atrocious and those 2 sack/fumbles are not sanchez fault for not protecting the rock when he's hit. The dallas one? Absolutely. But in full throwing motion, the QB can't be expected to hold onto the ball. Pre-snap errors sure blame him, but hit as-you-throw plays have been all but auto sack/fumbles for years.
     
  8. nyjunc

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    Clearly all the isses are from playcalling if we only had a better OC who knew what he was doing we'd be avering 40 PPG and be undefeated. Clearly the problem is playcalling.
     
  9. NYJFan10

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    If all these players and you guys want to blame it all on Schotty to make themselves feel better, go right ahead. They're only masking their own issues. What kind of magic plays is he supposed to call when the line can't open holes for Greene and can't protect Sanchez in the pocket? The only thing I'd say about Schotty is with this line, you really can't afford to call seven-step drop plays right now.
     
  10. MBGreen

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    Clearly, Schotty is a problem. Is he 100% responsible? probably not....but he's certainly NOT a fit for this team. I wish Tanny would've fired him the year we hired Rex, so Rex could've brought in his own guy.
     
  11. Murrell2878

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    It IS predictable. If we have 3 wides there's a 90% chance we are throwing. If we have 2 TE's it's 100% chance we are running it. If it's 2nd & 6+ we are throwing. There were two plays last night called back to back where I was a little excited because it looked like Schotty was mixing it up. Other than that, yes very predictable.
     
  12. nyjunc

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    that own guy would be getting bashed now and whoever follows Brian will be getting bashed just like heimerdinger, just like Hackkett, just like Weis, just like every OC we have ever had.
     
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    lol at Craig Carton saying David Clowney was correctly predicting every play on Twitter 'and he hasn't been here in three years'.
     
  14. CatoTheElder

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    I'm not expecting anyone to get fired this season and I certainly don't want Callahan to get the axe. He needs to get his shit together because right now his unit is causing the biggest problems for the offense.
     
  15. MikeHoncho

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    Could not agree more.. it's sooo predictable. It's to the point now that former players mock the playcalling, current players are calling out the OC, fans are furious.. and still nothing changes. The Ravens must have been laughing their asses off during this game.

    Last week against a D we should have torched, we couldn't get anything going until it was too late and made no adjustments. This week against a good defense, we were humiliated and embarrassed. Shittenheimer just does not fit the personnel we have on offense. He doesn't know how to get the most out of his players, and we are wasting a lot of talent.
     
  16. Don

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    Well, it wouldn't be a run up the middle which is clearly Schitty's favorite play when all else fails. Clearly.
     
  17. GQMartin

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    We need another OC but that comes at the cost of severe regression for Sanchez.
     
  18. guinness77

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    That's a risk I'd be willing to take, as long as, if its mid-season, either Cavanaugh or Callahan. There clearly needs to be a change.
     
  19. Klaus Casanova

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    How far can he regress? He looked like David Carr last night. People though that this team would regress with another rookie head coach and they went to the conference championship round of the playoffs. Twice.

    Addition by subtraction. Paul Hackett would be an upgrade at this point.
     
  20. MBGreen

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    that's a little over-the-top...even for you.



    Schotty is still a holdover failure from the last regime. He should've been axed then. Now we're paying the price.
     

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