I actually have concerns with our lack of moves also. My issues with our roster aren't the same as yours (the OP) but I do agree that I am somewhat puzzled that we didn't upgrade or add insurance at certain positions. 1.I am still not comfortable with our safety situation. I know backlash is on its way but fuck it. Eric Smith is not a starting safety in this league IMO. Jim Leonhard is OK but he's incredibly small to be a safety. I'd be OK with him as our FS only if our other safety was really good. That's not the case. Say what you will about tackles. I'd rather my DB's and Safeties be better in coverage than hit hard. 2.I am really surprised we didn't get a pass rusher. Say what you will about the philosophy of the 3-4 vs the 4-3. NO defense is designed for its lineman to get stood up. I'm not saying I expect Wilkerson to be Suh. I'm just saying we did NOTHING to address our pass rushing issues. We have to get guys who can help out our bump n run corners. It doesn't even have to be a D-line guy. An OLB would be cool too. I thought we could have capitalized on Brian Thomas' fluke statistical season and traded/replaced his ass. 3. Nick Folk- inconsistent to say the least. This was already argued in another thread. He's hit big time kicks but he's also missed crucial ones. I would have replaced him but it is what it is. 4. We claimed to be transitioning to this "youth movement" yet we have two of the oldest receivers in the league. I think Mason is a slight upgrade over Cotchery BUT I'm just worried about Plax. He's proven he can be a huge weapon but he's a big question mark at a crucial position. Given our problems on O, I would have liked to see us secure a "sure thing". With all that said, we are undoubtedly a Superbowl caliber team. I just would have liked to see us make moves to give us a better chance at getting over the hump. In no way would I advocate firing Tannenbaum. Schottenheimer? Now that's a different story.I think we are a top 5 team in the league and I think we can beat anyone on any given day. :jets:
The last line is the key here. Every single team in the NFL has questions every single day they have to answer. Look at every superbowl winner this millenium, they had a flaw. If they played the right team they could easily have lost. Every one has questions and weaknesses, the key is who can mask there weaknesses the best, and show up week in and week out and outplay their opponents. As you said, the Jets are one of the teams who can just kick your ass every day if you dont have a stellar gameplan and play your best ball when you face them.
Yeah we have nothing. Just a hall of famer in LT who led the team in rushing last year, an upstart multi-purpose back in Joe McKnight, and Rex's hand chosen draft pick Powell. Where do you come up with this shit? This I agree with but they did pick up that guy from the Packers to play C/G. I'm not proud of the depth but it's depth after all. If a guy like Brick or Mangold goes down we're fucked no matter what. Besides, I'd bet all 31 other coaches in the NFL would trade their offensive line with the Jets starters. Folk isn't a bad kicker and Weatherford choked in the playoffs. The staff and Westhoff specifically have seen enough in Conley to bring him into camp 3 years running, this time with him winning the starting job. I have no problem with our punter/kicker. Every team would love to have a combo of Vinatieri and Lechler but that's not really possible.
Firts of all my post was based on not spending a ridiculous amount of money that Jets might not have had. Ronnie Brown and Andre Gurode would only have cost an additional 1.5M. Getting a top flight back up QB or edge rusher is a much more expensive proposition. Didnt want Brown to start only fill in if needed. If something happens to Greene (after all he did rush the ball 185 times last year compared to Chris Johnson's 316) and you are happy with LT, McKnight and Powell god bless. McKnight goes down when you breath on him and Powell is about as fast as an edge rusher going by Ducasse. Come to think about it that is pretty fast. As far as LT being a HOF that is ancient history. Hey maybe we can get CMart to come back. If a starter on the O line went down they wouldnt be screwed if they had Gurode. Im glad it only took TJ Conley 3 tries to make the team. Ray Guy must be laughing his ass off.
While I don't share the same concerns or solutions as the OP, you can't just discredit his worries. LT IS NOT the Hall of Famer you speak of. He's still good but he's a shell of the guy that will be going into Canton. Joe McKnight is slightly overrated. His supporters are expecting him to turn into Reggie Bush's doppelganger or something. I actually like Powell BETTER than him. McKnight is fast BUT he isn't really dynamic. He also showed signs of being fumble prone from day one. As for Powell, just because Rex picked him, doens't mean he's good. Actually, can we all put that argument to rest for good? Even great coaches fuck up. I'm so tired of the "he picked him so clearly he's good" argument and or "he knows more football than all of us" line. I agree that RB is far from our biggest problem. Hell, if Greene stays healthy, it may not even be a problem. I get what your saying and I agree to an extent.I thought the key was to get BETTER though. I think we stayed equal to what we had last year.Some may even say we took a slight step back. We didn't win the Superbowl last year so essentially we're last year's team that came up short. I'm not saying last years team wasn't a Superbowl caliber team BUT what did we do to get a leg up on the competition? I've seen the Ravens and Pats make moves that made them better. I can't say we've done the same.
Completely aside from the points discussed here already, I think it's important to remember that the front office and coaches are absolutely assuming that the team did get much better - because Sanchez will be much better. Barring serious injury to a crucial player like Mangold or Brick, IMO the entire Jets season comes down to that, and nothing else. If Sanchez is the same QB he's been in his first two years the Jets are a wild card team, and while it's of course not impossible to win the Super Bowl that way the Jets have shown it's very tough. If Sanchez raises his game to the level of where Flacco, Schaub, or Cassel were last year, the Jets are serious contenders for a first-week playoff bye.
That may seem like a fair point on the face of it, but the reality is this is a team that was good enough to get to two Champ games in a row. The key to the season will be whether the Jets can get better seeding going into the playoffs. That will largely depend on Sanchez improving in his third year. I personally would have kept Ellis, and when Turner got hurt get not just one but two OL bench guys. I also agree Greene will have to step up since I doubt we see as much from LT as last year. But all the pieces are here, as long as Sanchez steps up. Yeah, the talk is the Pats improved, but they have to show it on the field. Let's see what happens. Ftr I have no problem unlike some cakeholes here with threads that question the Jet FO. But I feel pretty good about this team, unless Mangold, Ferguson, Revis or Harris go down, and Sanchez either regresses or gets hurt.
You are question Shonn Greenes durability, yet u wanted Ronnie Brown. The one season he was on pace to carry the ball over 250 times, he got hurt in the 7th game. Did u forget about Joe McKnight and LT? Yeah, LT is old, but Joe isn't. Wildcat my ass. We run the play twice a game and Kerley can pick up the 5 yards as well. Maybe you have a point here. But Caleb could be our next Slauson. I don't mind taking a shot at him. Andre Gurode would have been nice as a backup though. Neil Rackers is very reliable. Would have liked Rackers here too, but the difference was $600k vs. $2+mil. Thats a lot of money for a kicker. Nick Folk isn't consistent, but he did have a nice streak at the start of the season last year. Hoping he regains his lost PB form. Don't point a finger at Tanny. Especially not you. Apparently, you've seen the worse of the Jets, so how on earth do u complain about Tanny?
First off, questioning the FO after anything better than 8-8 is a steaming pile of horse shit. Not sure when we turned into the Yankees, but if you get to the AFC Title game two years in a row your FO probably doesn't deserve to get fired. Second, safety looks like a concern because we have Revis, and from there everyone just assumes that everybody in the DB roster should look like him. If we had Polomalu at strong and and Smith at free people would be bitching about why we don't have a ball-hawk over the middle. Third...running back...are you fucking kidding me? Who the hell keeps 5 running backs every year besides us? Are we supposed to have Arian Foster as our third stringer? This is not your fantasy league... I'll give you the obvious concerns about the OL depth and the slightly less obvious ones about the kicking game, but go look up the Bengals 53 and then cry about our depth. Nobody's free of holes. I'd say on balance we're about the same as last year going in...which is pretty goddamn good. The way our young guys (Kyle, Mo, Kenrick, Ropati, Kerley) progress will be what gets us over the hump or doesn't. Well them and Nacho.
No. Ronnie Brown was fucking awful last season. Go look at the numbers. We're better off with Tomlinson, Powell and McKnight. Yeah oline is a bit scary, especially losing Woody. I hope we do upgrade there next season, as having a great Oline is where it all starts. Folk isn't great, but he's not that bad either. He hit 77% of his kicks last season 30 for 39. Inside the 40 he's a 90% kicker (25 of 28). You don't have to hold your breath inside the 40. His chart for 2010: 1-19 yards: 1 for 1 20-29 yards: 10 for 11 30-39 yards: 14 of 16 40-49 yards: 3 for 6 50+ yards: 2 of 5 It's not great, but it's pretty much what you'd expect from a mid-tier kicker. I wouldn't mind an upgrade but kicker isn't a huge issue this season.
LOL Not complaining just pointing out what I would have liked happen. Not very worried about Ronnie Brown's duribility as I only wanted him as an emergency backup! As for Kerley dont think coaching staff can be that high on him if they just picked up Gilyard to do exactly what Kerley does. Otherwise you have good post. Hope your right with Folk.
I agree. Our success depends mostly on the progression of our young guys. I think the reason I have reservations is because of the shortened off-season. Either way, I like our chances. The only problem is, not only have I been a Jets fan all my life, I'm also a HUGE, DIE-HARD Knicks fan. I know what it's like to go season after season and keep coming up short.
I didn't necessarily mean Kerley would be a nice pick. I just meant that we didn't use wildcat as much to have a roster space occupied for it. Even LT can run the wildcat and IMO, SHOULD run the Wildcat.
The op may not particularly strong but the thread is actually generating some decent conversation in between the calls for the cesspool. That's why I have left it here all day.
The only real concern I have is our punter...with a defense based team field position is everything. That said, a good punter will only net maybe an extra 5-10 yards over the average punter, the big difference is the ability to pin teams under the 20, or better inside the 10. Distance of the punt doesn't bother me too much cause punters who really boom it for yardage often give up the bigger returns, I prefer a punter who is adept at angling punts and able to consistantly, in the proper circumstances, pin teams inside the 10.
