The Jets have been mentioned as one team in particular who will be effected. I don't know if it will result in any "surprising" cuts, but this lack of CBA I think almost assures that Chad stays since they can't afford the $12 mil hit.
Cutting chad doesn't really cost the jets anything cap-wise, the excellerated signing bonus is offset by dropping the salary and roster bonus. But it makes it more likely the Jets will up their offer on the renegotiation which allows them to save a bundle of cap money
The NFL is a powerhouse...no sport is even close when it comes to fan support. Most strikes, I tend to side with the owners. With that said, the NFL is playing with a little bit of fire here. I dont know how you guys feel but this is getting a bit out of hand with the way teams lose players. I understand why the NFL owners would never go for it, but I personally would love to see something along the lines of a NBA agreement, where a salary cap is in place....but teams can at least make offers to keep their own players. This bouncing around from team to team and cutting players you really would love to have is just not good for the sport....or the fans.
I hope both sides understand what they're risking here. If they screw this up and allow 2007 to be uncapped... it's never going to be capped again. And if it is, most of the people involved with the sport will be long gone.
This is the second post in a row you've pointed out someone else's mis-spelling. As the number one fan of Jay Fiedler, you lose all privledges to make fun of someone else, for WHATEVER reason.
jaywayne12, Could not disagree with you more. The NFL has a GREAT system. The NBA has a HORRIBLE system. The Knicks are a perfect example of a team that is in hell and may never get out. They need to find a way to make this work even if it means caving to the players' demands. The CBA is crucial to NFL success. Once they go to an uncapped year, there will be no turning back and the NFL will become MLB before you know it. This news really depresses me. DbJ
This is just posturing by the owners. One owner had his GM run to the media with the "Bloody Thursday" quote. They want to make it seem like all kinds of players are going to lose their jobs and thus a ton of money etc... It's just a threat to get the players back to the bargaining table.
I will be pretty fuckin pissed off if they dont reach an agreement...Football is the #1 sport...this would hurt.
Hard cap is the best thing to ever happen to pro sports. Every year it is wide open going in. You never know who will go from 10-6 to 6-10 from year to year and vise-versa. While losing players is a terrible thing year to year, I think the way to curb it is by making 100% of a contract guaranteed. The current contract system is a joke. Players sign for 5 years when the franchise has no intentions of keeping a player for more than 3 years.
One guy talking about the knicks others about baseball? Wtf. First of all the knicks are in cap hell because of their FO not the cap, they could of easily been out of cap trouble if they would of just released allan houston when they had the chance, and keep penny hardaway with his expiring contract, they would of saved a tremendous amount of cap space with those 2 moves alone. And if any team makes cuts there are penalties which effect the cap anyway, some players have a small cap penalty others larger, some players are kept because of the high penalty. So bloody thursday is right. But im sure mangini knows what he is doing.
What I'm hoping to accomplish is a system where contracts are signed with the intent to be honored. I'm sure it wouldn't be the case 100%, but right now is just a complete joke. If the contracts were guaranteed 100% you would not see these ridiculous 5,6,7 yr deals. Thats where most of the cuts come from - guys on the back end of a back loaded(non-guaranteed) contract. Enough is enough already.
I completely understand where your coming from. Just a couple thoughts. First off, using the Knicks as an example is a great one...but probably the only one. You have teams that draft well that hold on to their star players for years in the NBA. If the Knicks didnt have cablevisions unlimited resources...they would never be able to get away with their situation. I believe the penalty..or luxury tax is 50 cents on the dollar over the cap. Most teams could never afford to do what the Knicks are doing. I personally dont see how the CBA is crucial to the NFL...its crucial the way its set up...and for it to be in place.. but all it does is cause parity in the NFL..now parity can be a good thing...but it doesnt reward the teams that draft well but cant hold on to their players. Of all the owners...the NFL owners profit the most. If any league could relax the cap in a "NBA" way...not an exact replica....but allowing teams to go over the cap to retain their own draft choices for instance, the better franchises would be rewarded. Im not saying to have no cap...or let teams each spend an extra 50 million dollars...Im just saying let teams keep their draft choices through a relaxed cap. What most teams do in the NBA is take on huge contracts in their final year. That is not what the Knicks do...they give them up and take on long contracts...and rightfully pay through the nose for it. I fully understand that what I would like would never happen...lol. They way the owners have it set up is a cash cow. The parity gives any franchise a basic 2 to 3 year window to be bad...or to be very good. If your rebuilding because of the cap, you can do it in a 2 to 3 year period....but if your a very good team...its the same window....because one day you have to pay for having a very good team...and thats the part I hate. I know the Pats shoot down that theory...but the Pats are a rare bird with players willing to take less money to be competitive.
